Posted on 07/26/2013 8:24:06 AM PDT by Starman417
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In the wake of the George Zimmerman verdict, Eric Holder addressed the NAACP. During his speech he denounced "stand your ground" laws.
"There has always been a legal defense for using deadly force if — and the 'if' is important — if no safe retreat is available. But we must examine laws that take this further by eliminating the common sense and age-old requirement that people who feel threatened have a duty to retreat, outside their home, if they can do so safely.By allowing — and perhaps encouraging — violent situations to escalate in public — such laws undermine public safety. The list of resulting tragedies is long and, unfortunately, has victimized too many who are innocent.
"It is our collective obligation. We must 'stand our ground' to ensure that our laws reduce violence and take a hard look at laws that contribute to more violence than they prevent."
Let us not delude ourselves- he means "white people have a duty to retreat." And, of course, white Hispanics.
Never mind that at least 21 states have "Stand your ground" laws.
Never mind that "Stand your ground" laws disproportionately favor minorities.
Never mind that Illinois has a "No duty to retreat law" and Barack Obama voted for it.
What Holder says is that should you find yourself outside your home and you see assailants entering your home where your spouse and kids are, you need to retreat.
And what he really means is white people must retreat. And Roderick Scott is why.
Scott said on April 4, he was sleeping on the couch, because he and his girlfriend had a disagreement. In the early morning he awoke and heard voices. He looked out the front door to see what was going on outside.He testified he saw three individuals who were in his driveway, saw them walk out and cross the street, then walk up to a neighbor’s vehicle, pulling on the latch and handles of the neighbor’s truck. He then went upstairs, told his girlfriend Tracy that someone was breaking into a vehicle, and told her to call 911. He grabbed his pistol, for which he has a permit, “to protect myself” then went outside.
Scott said his intent was “to stop or detain the criminals,” not to shoot anyone. He walked down the driveway and over to 39 Baneberry Way. He saw one person standing on a sidewalk, and some rummaging going on inside a vehicle, which had the dome light on.
At that point, Scott testified he pulled his handgun out of the holster, and chambered a round. “I wanted to protect myself and I intended to,” Scott said.
He walked toward the individual, who started to walk away toward Manitou Road. He did not tell that individual to stop. It’s believed that individual was Brian Hopkins.
At this point, Scott was a foot or so off the sidewalk, and he saw someone rustling around inside the vehicle at 39 Baneberry. He testified he clearly saw two individuals. He drew his pistol and assumed the a shooter’s stance. “I didn’t know what I was up against, or if they were armed,” Scott said.
He told the individuals to stop, that his girlfriend had called 911, and that he had a gun. The individuals stopped, and a few seconds passed. Scott says the teens were talking, then one of them ran around the front of the truck. The other ran down the driveway toward him, screaming. Scott warned him he had a gun, then shot him.
He assumed the boy may have been armed.
“I felt if he got to me he would try to kill me or hurt me,” Scott testified.
After the shooting, Scott said Cervini, who was running at him, kept running, passed by him, and fell face-first onto the ground.
This is an Attorney General of the United States who is occupied primarily with what he calls "my people."
(Excerpt) Read more at floppingaces.net...
The duty to retreat is a fiction invented by lawyers so they could muddy obvious self-defense cases in the favor of thugs.
Don’t forget the money aspect.
One of the main things that SYG laws do is remove the obligation on the part of the defender,
and then the trial lawyers can’t get a piece of his wealth for defending himself or the family.
I guess Trayvon Martin - if he felt threatened by Zimmerman - should have retreated to his home. He had plenty of time to do that. He had only 100 yards to go - I’m 62 and I can go that far in 20-25 seconds.
Duty to retreat? i.e. act French.
Eric Holder has a duty to kiss my lily-white keester.
You white folk have a duty to lay down and take you whoop ass.
Oh. It’s white people. Hey Holder, how about calling us Americans. That’s a racist statement!!
That’s all this “review of SYG laws” is about, conceding the streets to thugs. According to Holder and crewe, if someone menaces us, we’re supposed to run away. That’s all this is - give the streets (and the malls, and the stores, and everywhere else but homes), over to thugs. Let lawlessness reign so we don’t have to here about drug-using thieves like St. Skittles getting killed if the assault someone.
Get the hell off my yard!
Yep. They have a duty to retreat from your yard. Let's not let the other side control the term.
If you haven’t already make sure you find some conservatives for friends so you don’t feel unduly isolated while among the plethora of LIB/DIMs in many places. Best.
That almost reads like you’ve retreated.
Have I mentioned: 'f*** you'?
So, let me get this straight: if some hoodlums show up at my back door and want to rob me, I am supposed to retreat out the front door and let them? I guess the next step will be that I have to help them carry my stuff out???
Oh my gosh! So wise. And that is timely for me. :) Thanks. It is excellent to have a believer to help me get my head back on straight - after three days of progressive insanity in NC. Thanks.
my thoughts exactly. they all fail to mention trayvon sucker punching him jumping and straddling him punding him MMA style threatening to kill him while showing no intentions of stopping.
- How many of the guns used in killings are legally owned? I don't know the answer, but I suspect very few, which means banning guns would have minimal effect (the criminals don't abide by the laws now).
- How many of the gun killings are in conjunction with the commission of another crime? Again, I don't know the answer, but I suspect the large majority, which supports the theory that banning guns would have minimal effect (the criminals don't abide by the laws now).
So, the conclusion appears to be that the intent is to ban law-abiding citizens (aka conservatives) from having guns - I think we knew that all along.
Joe McCarthy was right about 95% of the time.
The Communists mounted a propaganda campaign against him that continues to this day.
Holder doesn’t even belong in the same room with McCarthy.
You don’t say..... :-)
Frankly, only the agressor has the duty to retreat. The potential victim has a duty to defend.
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