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Obama Melts Down
Flopping Aces ^ | 09-04-13 | DrJohn

Posted on 09/04/2013 5:37:18 PM PDT by Starman417

obama not my fault

Maybe it's jet lag.

Maybe it's the sleeping pills.

Whatever. Barack Obama has melted down. Reality has slipped his grip like a wet salmon. Obama has always been one to take credit for everything ("I got Bin Laden") and own everything ("my military") yet never, ever take responsibility for anything. At his news conference in Sweden he said things that a rational person could never utter.

STEVE HOLLAND, REUTERS: Have you made up your mind whether to take action against Syria whether or not you have a congressional resolution approved? Is a strike needed in order to preserve your credibility for when you set these sort of red lines? And were you able to enlist the support of the prime minister here for support in Syria?

PRESIDENT OBAMA: Let me unpack the question. First of all, I didn't set a red line. The world set a red line. The world set a red line when governments representing 98 percent of the world's population said the use of chemical weapons are abhorrent and passed a treaty forbidding their use even when countries are engaged in war. Congress set a red line when it ratified that treaty. Congress set a red line when it indicated that in a piece of legislation titled the Syria Accountability Act that some of the horrendous thing that are happening on the ground there need to be answered for. And so, when I said, in a press conference, that my calculus about what's happening in Syria would be altered by the use of chemical weapons, which the overwhelming consensus of humanity says is wrong, that wasn't something I just kind of made up. I didn't pluck it out of thin air. There was a reason for it. That's point number one. Point number two, my credibility is not on the line. The international community's credibility is on the line. And America and Congress' credibility is on the line because we give lip service to the notion that these international norms are important.

The world set the red line? Which world is that??? Not this world. Let's crank up the Wayback machine.

wayback

WaPo:

Obama issues Syria a ‘red line’ warning on chemical weapons

“We have been very clear to the Assad regime, but also to other players on the ground, that a red line for us is we start seeing a whole bunch of chemical weapons moving around or being utilized. That would change my calculus,” Obama said. “That would change my equation. . . . We’re monitoring that situation very carefully. We have put together a range of contingency plans.”

That sounds very much to me like he set a red line.

Obama said Syria does not pose an imminent threat:

"We may not be directly imminently threatened by what's taking place in a Kosovo or a Syria or a Rawanda in the short-term but our long-term national security will be impacted in a profound way and our humanity's impacted in a profound way."

Wait- what? That's not what he's been saying.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLkvuXsMnCs

Again, the Wayback machine:

In a speech at a 2002 anti-war rally, Obama, then an Illinois state senator, conceded that Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein was "a brutal man," "a ruthless man," "a man who butchers his own people to secure his own power." He noted that the Iraqi dictator "has reeatedly defied U.N. resolutions, thwarted U.N. inspection teams, developed chemical and biological weapons, and coveted nuclear capacity."

In short, there was no question that "the world, and the Iraqi people, would be better off without him." Still, Obama said, "Saddam poses no imminent and direct threat to the United States." Hence a U.S. invasion aimed at overthrowing him would be "a dumb war," "a rash war," "a war based not on reason but on passion."

Notably, Saddam's crimes against his own people included using chemical weapons against Kurds in northern Iraq, a campaign that killed some 5,000 men, women, and children. That murderous assault, in Obama's view, did not justify U.S. intervention.

Today, by contrast, Obama says a sarin-gas attack that caused about 1,400 of the 100,000 deaths so far in Syria's civil war demands an American response in the form of missiles aimed at President Bashar al-Assad's forces. "What message will we send if a dictator can gas hundreds of children to death in plain sight and pay no price?" Obama asked in a speech on Saturday. Presumably the same message he was willing to send when he opposed war with Iraq.

And BTW, his credibility is not on the line. Ours is.

"My credibility is not on the line. The international community's credibility is on the line and America and Congress's credibility is on the line because we give lip service to the notion that these international norms are important."

Huh?

WASHINGTON (AP) — For more than a week, the White House had been barreling toward imminent military action against Syria. But President Barack Obama’s abrupt decision to instead ask Congress for permission left him with a high-risk gamble that could devastate his credibility if no action is ultimately taken in response to a deadly chemical weapons attack that crossed his own ‘‘red line.’’

The stunning reversal also raises questions about the president’s decisiveness and could embolden leaders in Syria, Iran, North Korea and elsewhere, leaving them with the impression of a U.S. president unwilling to back up his words with actions.

This is astonishing, even for Obama.

Let's be very clear here. Obama blurted out the "red line" thing. Not the world. Obama put his credibility on the line- not ours. He is now desperate to drag us into something most Americans oppose. I do not believe it has to do with anything other than pulling his ass out of the fire alone. We have seen no compelling evidence for action. He has not made the case to the UN. Speaking which, the UN Secretary General said that any action by the US without UN approval would be illegal.

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KEYWORDS: bho44; bhomiddleeast; obama; syria
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To: Starman417

i am a marxist black liberal president and i will not be blamed for anything i did, or didn’t, do.


41 posted on 09/04/2013 6:39:17 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: RoosterRedux

A puppet for world communist forces that are on the move.


42 posted on 09/04/2013 6:42:03 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: GreyFriar
bh0 again shows that all his words/promises have an expiration date. And worse for this nation.

Yeah, whatever he says or does is worse for this nation.

43 posted on 09/04/2013 6:47:51 PM PDT by zot
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To: Starman417

I hope someday we get through this and wonder, like the Germans did after WW2, how did we let ourselves get into this mess.


44 posted on 09/04/2013 6:48:51 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: Starman417

“Jesus was a community organizer” /S


45 posted on 09/04/2013 6:51:11 PM PDT by RS_Rider (I hate Illinois Nazis)
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To: Ramius
"I’m concerned that he could just totally unravel."

The sooner, and more publicly, the better.

46 posted on 09/04/2013 6:53:29 PM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome (No more usurpers.)
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To: All

Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn’t the prior use (and continuing threats) of chemical weapons one of the cited reasons for removing an uncooperative and belligerent Saddam Hussein from power?

Now we find out that some of the stuff possessed by Assad “came from Iraq on trucks” and we continue to ignore it.

I am ready to make my protest sign and stand around like an idiot - I am thinking something pithy.... Obama lied and people died!


47 posted on 09/04/2013 6:55:46 PM PDT by volunbeer (We must embrace austerity or austerity will embrace us)
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To: Starman417

It has everything to do with pulling nObama’s irons out of the fire, and Boehner and his Republicans cannot wait to do it.

What a pack of losers the Republican party leadership is.


48 posted on 09/04/2013 7:11:11 PM PDT by Venturer ( cowardice posturing as tolerance =political correctness)
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To: Starman417

49 posted on 09/04/2013 7:12:22 PM PDT by TChad
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To: LyinLibs

The bulge should be a camel toe.


50 posted on 09/04/2013 7:16:51 PM PDT by chiefqc
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To: Starman417

Obama’s red line comment was off-the-cuff and not part of his prepared speech. His cabinet was caught off guard when he uttered those words. As we all know it isn’t the first time he’s put his foot in his mouth when deviating from the teleprompter.


51 posted on 09/04/2013 7:28:57 PM PDT by kenf3
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To: Ramius
I’m concerned that he could just totally unravel.

Yes. Sociopathic narcissists can lash out at any time. I have been concerned about Ubama's final year in office when the newsrooms relegate Ubama to the back of the bus and turn all their attention to the GOP and Democrat primaries. I expect him to get into all kinds of mischief, concluding with the pardon of Bradley "Chelsea" Manning on his final day.

But at this point I am more concerned about the danger the African communist weasel poses to this nation TODAY. He is no longer just a laughingstock here at home - - he is now an international laughingstock. There is no telling how he might lash out at real and imagined enemies. The Chicago mob isn't used to getting rolled, and their man in the White House is getting rolled big time.

52 posted on 09/04/2013 7:35:17 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Venturer

This is a debacle, and the alarming part is that our enemies are surely emboldened, either way, whether Obama forces a strike on Syria or whether he is backed off by Congress. They mean us harm and, obviously, we are in total disarray on all fronts, including a war wearied military, now infiltrated with gaiety on one hand and religious persecution affecting their chaplains, on the other.

We are in sure peril, and RINO rule can not fix it.


53 posted on 09/04/2013 7:37:59 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: RitaOK
This is a debacle, and the alarming part is that our enemies are surely emboldened, either way, whether Obama forces a strike on Syria or whether he is backed off by Congress.

President Carter II.

54 posted on 09/04/2013 7:40:16 PM PDT by alrea
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To: Islander7
perhaps he already has flipped out. What if the reason nobody seems to know where he was during benghazi was because he had some sort of episode at the time? complete conjecture, but just an idea I had.

CC

55 posted on 09/04/2013 7:43:01 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (tease not the dragon for thou art crunchy when roasted and taste good with ketchup)
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To: Starman417

“Insane in the Hussein. Insane in the brain.”

Cypress Hill won’t like my rendition of their ‘Insane in the Membrane’ song, but I don’t give a rip.


56 posted on 09/04/2013 7:48:23 PM PDT by Vision Thing (obama wants to convert his suicidal followers into suicidal bombers.)
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To: Starman417

Obama is becoming more and more unhinged. I think we’re getting close to seeing his Captain Queeg moment.


57 posted on 09/04/2013 7:49:33 PM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: Starman417

Reminds me of this study:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3062760/posts?page=1


58 posted on 09/04/2013 7:53:53 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Celtic Conservative

On buttock obama’s absence during Benghazi, my conjecture is less charitable: I suspect he was stoned out of his mind because he was celebrating 9/11.


59 posted on 09/04/2013 7:56:11 PM PDT by Vision Thing (obama wants to convert his suicidal followers into suicidal bombers.)
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To: Starman417

obama didn’t blurt out anything. This response was written by someone else. It’s a talking point. Pelosi and others are useing it.


60 posted on 09/04/2013 8:07:39 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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