[JRandomFreeper]

Living in that liberal hell-hole sure has made you negative. I'm glad not everyone sees things the way you do, or no-one would be willing to do the heavy lifting to make things happen.

You roll around in your advance defeat fantasy if it makes you feel better.

I am not advocating going in blind, but this set of events is different. One big way that they are different is that the cave hasn't happened yet. People have been predicting a cave here on FR since before the shutdown. And it hasn't happened yet.

/johnny

[GeronL]

The only reason Bonehead hasn’t caved is because he feels the heat from the grassroots.

Last year Bonehead said “It’s the law of the land and it will be funded”... and that was during a re-election campaign. He feels more heat and pressure now than he did before an election.

[sickoflibs]

RE :”You roll around in your advance defeat fantasy if it makes you feel better”

Maybe you are right. Maybe Reid is peeing in his pants and will pass a bill defunding Obamacare tomorrow and Obama sign it Thursday.

That would certainly kill the establishment GOP from any say the next few years,

But I certainly don't see it.