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POLICE USING LAWFUL GUN OWNERSHIP AS AN EXCUSE FOR “NO KNOCK” HOME INVASIONS
coachisright.com ^ | JANUARY 2, 2014 | Doug Book, editor

Posted on 01/02/2014 9:57:38 AM PST by jmaroneps37

Texas courts have ruled that because legally owned firearms represent “a threat of physical violence” to police, officers may ignore the 4th Amendment rights of Texas residents by treating ALL legally issued warrants as “No Knock” warrants, even if the issuing judge has made it clear that officers “…must knock on the door and announce their identity and purpose before attempting a forcible entry.”

In August of 2006, police in Collin County, Texas obtained a warrant to search the home of John Quinn based on information that Quinn’s son might be keeping a controlled substance on the premises. Although the warrant “…did not authorize police to enter the residence without knocking and announcing their entry,” the County SWAT Team broke through Quinn’s door unannounced, “…based solely on the suspicion that there were firearms in the Quinn household.”

Not aware of who had broken into his home, the suddenly awakened Quinn was shot by officers as he grabbed a nearby gun for the purpose of defending his life, family and property. All firearms in the home were legally owned by Quinn. Police discovered less than 1 gm of cocaine on the premises.

When Quinn took the Collin County SWAT Team to court for ignoring the terms of the search warrant by turning it into a “No Knock” warrant, the court ruled that “…because police had information that guns were present at the residence, they were justified in making a forced and unannounced invasion into Quinn’s home.”

In short, a judge decided John Quinn represented a criminal danger based upon the legal exercise of his 2nd amendment rights.

The Rutherford Institute has petitioned the Supreme Court to hear the Quinn case, writing to the Court that: “…in the absence of any evidence of actual danger to police,...

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TOPICS: Government; Health/Medicine; Politics
KEYWORDS: 4thamendment; banglist; donutwatch; guncontrol; noknock; noknockwarrents; policestate; texas; warrants
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To: SkyDancer

I wouldn’t count on that. You have to remember that most of these police departments exclude candidates who have an IQ above a certain level, so don’t count on thugs who get hired to smash in doors at 4:00am to be bright enough to handle that math.


61 posted on 01/02/2014 11:52:51 AM PST by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: DManA

Is he wrong here?


62 posted on 01/02/2014 11:53:44 AM PST by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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To: Westbrook
“No knock” is illegal in NH. One of the things they got right.

We also have excellent gun ownership and carry protections.

63 posted on 01/02/2014 11:54:47 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (Cogito, ergo armatum sum.)
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To: Westbrook
“No knock” is illegal in NH.

Are you SURE about that?

64 posted on 01/02/2014 11:57:28 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Osage Orange

y’aaaaaalll got a problem with that?


65 posted on 01/02/2014 11:57:37 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: who knows what evil?

> Are you SURE about that?

Yes.

I think the law was passed after a man was killed in front of his wife in children in Nashua during a no-knock raid. He was in bed and reached for his eyeglasses to see what was going on, and the police said they thought he was going for a weapon.


66 posted on 01/02/2014 12:02:16 PM PST by Westbrook ()Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: MrB
Ha!!

Loved it!!

67 posted on 01/02/2014 12:02:24 PM PST by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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To: andy58-in-nh

> We also have excellent gun ownership and carry protections.

Yes, but we have a communist with a moslem surname in the governor’s office, and another communist with a moslem surname as a senator.


68 posted on 01/02/2014 12:03:14 PM PST by Westbrook ()Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: Westbrook

That’s VERY interesting...thanks!


69 posted on 01/02/2014 12:04:28 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Osage Orange

I would wait for another source before I got all upset.


70 posted on 01/02/2014 12:08:35 PM PST by DManA
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To: Westbrook
Yes, but we have a communist with a moslem surname in the governor’s office, and another communist with a moslem surname as a senator.

True enough. But our governor (Hassan) is highly constrained because in NH, the governor has little direct power and all five members of her executive council are Republicans.

As for our senior Senator (Shaheen), she's going to face a tough challenge, probably from Scott Brown. Big caveat to that, though: if he wants to get elected he's going to have to abandon the pro-gun control stance that served him well in Massachusetts but won't work here.

71 posted on 01/02/2014 12:15:34 PM PST by andy58-in-nh (Cogito, ergo armatum sum.)
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To: Valpal1
Had a mass uprising of the electorate unseated the justices on the Mass. Supreme Court back when Romney was governor, there would have been no gay marriage juggernaut toppling states like dominoes.

I read a pretty good article that gave some pretty damning evidence against Romney and the homosexual marriage issue (specifically concerning the judges he appointed).

72 posted on 01/02/2014 12:20:50 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: andy58-in-nh

> As for our senior Senator (Shaheen), she’s going to face a
> tough challenge, probably from Scott Brown.

Scott Brown is a big-government socialist.

The only difference between him and Shaheen is the party they puport to belong to.

> if he wants to get elected he’s going to have to abandon
> the pro-gun control stance that served him well in
> Massachusetts but won’t work here.

I submit that even the communist Shaheen is better on gun policy than Brown.

He shoulda stayed in Massachusetts.

I won’t vote for him.

I’ll write-in somebody.


73 posted on 01/02/2014 12:24:36 PM PST by Westbrook ()Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: No Socialist

Start at the bottom.

Control of your sheriff’s deputies and/or municipal police starts by electing a right thinking sheriff, county commissioners, mayor, city council members and DA’s (if elected). Most judges are elected. Pay attention to the local power structure. Stop electing lawyers as judges (not a requirement in many jurisdictions, hell, it’s not even a requirement for the USSC).

Work your way up the government ladder. Most states have a ballot initiative process. Use it.

Take control of the bottom and the elite at the top will get their come to Jesus moment when they suddenly realize that it’s not only a new game, it’s a whole new game board with different pieces.


74 posted on 01/02/2014 12:25:51 PM PST by Valpal1 (If the police can t solve a problem with brute force, they ll find a way to fix it with brute force)
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To: OneWingedShark

These people http://www.massresistance.org/ have all the dirt on Romney.

I couldn’t bring myself to vote for him.


75 posted on 01/02/2014 12:30:31 PM PST by Valpal1 (If the police can t solve a problem with brute force, they ll find a way to fix it with brute force)
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To: jmaroneps37

let me get this straight.
If you register your guns, then you are surrendering your 4th amendment rights.


76 posted on 01/02/2014 12:37:28 PM PST by BuffaloJack (Democrats believe in a two-party system—the masters and the slaves.)
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To: jmaroneps37
Does this mean police may legally gun down the holder of a Concealed Carry license on sight, based on the belief that being armed makes such a person likely to kill an officer?

Police can and do gun down anybody they choose for any or no reason. Many headlines over the past few years show that to be the case. It is a policeman's right, when he is in uniform and sometimes when out of uniform, now to kill anyone he wants to kill. The only restraint is that he must say to the first reporter or other officer on the scene,"I felt threatened." That statement absolves him of any guilt.

77 posted on 01/02/2014 12:43:58 PM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: MrB

LOL... Some of us are better armed than others. And we’re not alone. You might end up dead, I might end up dead. We’re all going to die at some point. I ask this... do cops really want to die at the doorstep of someone who has committed no crime but to exercise their Fundamental Civil Right to RKBA?

I’ll happily give my life to protect my family. Who’s willing to die trying to harm my family? Is it worth it to you? It’s very much worth me dying to protect my wife and child. It’s also very much worth me destroying any immediate threat to my family in such a way to ensure that threat is gone for good.

Do I want to get into a fight. Nope. Will I if I am pushed? Better believe it. If someone feels they have the right to violate my Rights, they better not say a word when I violate theirs.


78 posted on 01/02/2014 12:51:26 PM PST by BCR #226 (02/07 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: BuffaloJack

>>let me get this straight.
If you register your guns, then you are surrendering your 4th amendment rights.<<

That’s my take on it too.


79 posted on 01/02/2014 12:52:55 PM PST by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: BCR #226

I don’t want there to be a misunderstanding about my post - it wasn’t intended to tell anyone that they shouldn’t defend their home from an invasion,

it was to put, in stark terms, what anyone in support of ANY “no knock raid” is advocating -

the killing of innocent homeowners by agents of the State.

There is no way around that truth.


80 posted on 01/02/2014 12:54:38 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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