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Special Forces Operative Reveals The Osama Bin Laden Raid Was A Lie
http://www.mrconservative.com ^ | January 3, 2014 | Robert Rich

Posted on 01/05/2014 8:06:13 AM PST by NKP_Vet

This presidency can surely be said to be the most shrouded in secrecy of all times. From birth certificate conspiracies to everything else this man has had the indecency to lie about in order to ensure political prevalence, Obama can surely be labeled a sociopath. A letter has come forward stating that although you may believe it, things he can only express through words have proven to him that Obama did not in fact kill Osama during that raid.

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TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: binladen; ndaa; obamalies; obldead; obldeadlie; osama; sealteam6; specops
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To: gaijin

False in one, False in all. I believe nothing this POS says.


81 posted on 01/05/2014 1:26:30 PM PST by DrDude (Does anyone have a set of balls anymore?)
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To: NKP_Vet
And don’t forget that the initial stories coming out of the media were his compound was primitive, no TV, no computers, no nothing. Then within a couple of weeks the same compound was being referred to as a “command center” for all worldwide terrorist activities, and that Bin Laden was the still the acknowledged mastermind and on-scene leader of Al Queda. All the sudden his once primitive compound contained all sorts of intelligence information that would be used for years to come to fight terrorism.

That isn't true at all, not even close. From day one it was described as a million dollar compound in a select neighborhood, and that ""Osama bin Laden raid yields trove of computer data"".

By MIKE ALLEN | 5/2/11 7:51 PM EDT
The assault force of Navy SEALs snatched a trove of computer drives and disks during their weekend raid on Osama bin Laden’s compound, yielding what a U.S. official called “the mother lode of intelligence.” Then within a couple of weeks the same compound was being referred to as a “command center” for all worldwide terrorist activities, and that Bin Laden was the still the acknowledged mastermind and on-scene leader of Al Queda. All the sudden his once primitive compound contained all sorts of intelligence information that would be used for years to come to fight terrorism.
The special operations forces grabbed personal computers, thumb drives and electronic equipment during the lightning raid that killed bin Laden, officials told POLITICO.
“They cleaned it out,” one official said. “Can you imagine what’s on Osama bin Laden’s hard drive?”

New York Times-Published: May 5, 2011
WASHINGTON — After reviewing computer files and documents seized at the compound where Osama bin Laden was killed, American intelligence analysts have concluded that the chief of Al Qaeda played a direct role for years in plotting terror attacks from his hide-out in Abbottabad, Pakistan, United States officials said Thursday.

82 posted on 01/05/2014 1:28:34 PM PST by ansel12 ( Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: ansel12; NKP_Vet
Let's try that post again.

And don’t forget that the initial stories coming out of the media were his compound was primitive, no TV, no computers, no nothing. Then within a couple of weeks the same compound was being referred to as a “command center” for all worldwide terrorist activities, and that Bin Laden was the still the acknowledged mastermind and on-scene leader of Al Queda. All the sudden his once primitive compound contained all sorts of intelligence information that would be used for years to come to fight terrorism.

That isn't true at all, not even close. From day one it was described as a million dollar compound in a select neighborhood, and that ""Osama bin Laden raid yields trove of computer data"".

By MIKE ALLEN | 5/2/11 7:51 PM EDT
The assault force of Navy SEALs snatched a trove of computer drives and disks during their weekend raid on Osama bin Laden’s compound, yielding what a U.S. official called “the mother lode of intelligence.”
The special operations forces grabbed personal computers, thumb drives and electronic equipment during the lightning raid that killed bin Laden, officials told POLITICO.
“They cleaned it out,” one official said. “Can you imagine what’s on Osama bin Laden’s hard drive?”

New York Times-Published: May 5, 2011
WASHINGTON — After reviewing computer files and documents seized at the compound where Osama bin Laden was killed, American intelligence analysts have concluded that the chief of Al Qaeda played a direct role for years in plotting terror attacks from his hide-out in Abbottabad, Pakistan, United States officials said Thursday.

83 posted on 01/05/2014 1:38:32 PM PST by ansel12 ( Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: ansel12

After the White House read the truth about what was found in the “compound”, the lies started.............

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/42853221/ns/world_news-death_of_bin_laden/t/how-us-tracked-couriers-elaborate-bin-laden-compound/#.UsnQqLSzJ0Q

“This home, U.S. intelligence analysts concluded, was “custom built to hide someone of significance.”

“The plot of land was roughly eight times larger than the other homes in the area. It was built in 2005 on the outskirts of town, but now some other homes are nearby.

“Physical security is extraordinary: 12 to 18 foot walls, walled areas, restricted access by two security gates.” The residents burn their trash, unlike their neighbors. There are no windows facing the road. One part of the compound has its own seven-foot privacy wall.

And unusual for a compound valued at more than $1 million: It had no telephone or Internet service”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osama_bin_Laden%27s_compound_in_Abbottabad

On a plot of land much larger than those of nearby houses, it was surrounded by 5.5-metre (18 ft)[5][31] concrete walls topped with barbed wire.[32] Apart from its size, it does not stand out from others in the neighborhood[33] and it was not easily seen except from close by.[34] The compound walls are higher than usual in the neighborhood, although nearly all houses in Bilal Town have barbed wire.[34] There were no phones or internet wires running into the compound.


84 posted on 01/05/2014 1:52:29 PM PST by NKP_Vet ("Rather than love, than money, than fame, then give truth" ~ Henry David Thoreau)
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To: Oldexpat

100%. Theres the SEAL who took the kill shot who wrote the book he wasn’t supposed to write. I won’t even give this article a click.


85 posted on 01/05/2014 2:03:42 PM PST by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: crazydad

Thank you, but wiki is not source material and no one can provide a quote from the relevant legislation to back up their claims.

Can you?

Can anyone?

Apparently not.

Read it for yourself and then cite the source with actual quotes of the legislation.

Just because someone says something doesn’t mean it is true. Right? We always ask actual quotes, source documents and link (which I provided), but yet, no one provides a quote or a link from the legislation that proves the point they are trying to make.

Why is that?

Again, is it because people would rather be told what to feel rather than think for themselves?

I read the legislation and I find no legitimacy to the claim and I find mere allegations not backed up by the actual legislation.

Indeed, I quote the legislation where it actually protects US citizens against the very abuses that are being alleged.

Can anyone provide a contrary quote from the actual law?

Seriously. I want to read it myself.

wiki is an opinion site with a decidedly leftist bent, and they even go back to post-911 resolutions to back up the claim, but they ignore the protections put in place by the NDAA.

So, the NDAA, you know, the entire military budget, actually protects American citizens.

Can anyone offer a quote from an NDAA (12/13, or even 14) that says otherwise?


86 posted on 01/05/2014 2:06:12 PM PST by Hulka
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To: Hulka

i am cetainly skeptical about detaining citizens indefinately
i am even more skeptical our government doesn’t consider itself above the law and will break it any time they wish.


87 posted on 01/05/2014 2:07:26 PM PST by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: MestaMachine

Calm down, Sparky.

FY14 has not been printed by the GAO yet. I use published final versions.

Provide a direct quote and link to the legislation to prove your point(s).

Until then, have a nice day.


88 posted on 01/05/2014 2:09:11 PM PST by Hulka
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To: wiggen

I’m with you on that, provided that is the case.

A reading of the actual law indicates no such threat.

Can you provide a link to the law that says otherwise?

Thanks.


89 posted on 01/05/2014 2:10:30 PM PST by Hulka
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To: crazydad

Did find FY14, and there is no mention in it regarding detain US citizens.

(http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CRPT-113hrpt102/pdf/CRPT-113hrpt102.pdf)

Previous sections of FY12/13 Act apply.

Can anyone find a link to the legislation with direct quote from the law (FY12/13/14) that allows indefinite detention of US citizens?

Anyone?


90 posted on 01/05/2014 2:22:26 PM PST by Hulka
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To: NKP_Vet
I never believed the story on Bin Laden being killed and his body being dumped at sea. The narcissist-in-chief would have went on national TV, with the body laying in front of him if Bin Laden has been killed during that raid.

I concur. I knew at the time, that everything about the raid, and the quick disposal of Bin Laden's remains, was intended to mask some other outcome.

Like you said, if we'd really killed Bin Laden, the administration would have provided the undeniable proof to the world. It was just all too convenient that they chose to bury him at sea before taking any video or photos of the body, or providing a full and unambiguous forensic analysis or autopsy to the public.

I never believed it from day one. I think they cut some kind of deal with Bin Laden and the Pakistani government, and let Osama go underground for life.

91 posted on 01/05/2014 2:33:24 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: NKP_Vet

*””And don’t forget that the initial stories coming out of the media were his compound was primitive, no TV, no computers, no nothing. Then within a couple of weeks the same compound was being referred to as a “command center” for all worldwide terrorist activities, and that Bin Laden was the still the acknowledged mastermind and on-scene leader of Al Queda. All the sudden his once primitive compound contained all sorts of intelligence information that would be used for years to come to fight terrorism.”*


You are totally wrong.

By Robert Windrem and Alex Johnson
NBC News and msnbc.com
updated 5/4/2011 7:15:09 PM ET
“They didn’t use land lines or the Internet, but they did use something else, cell phones,” said the official.
Bin Laden’s voice was never heard on cell phone conversations intercepted by the NSA during surveillance prior to Sunday’s raid, the official said.

‘Thousands of documents’ also recovered
On Tuesday, U.S. officials told NBC that “thousands of documents” were recovered that could help the U.S. “destroy al-Qaida.”

NBC News reported that the documents — in both paper and electronic form on computers and portable computer drives — were recovered Sunday when a U.S. commando team raided the three-story compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan, and killed bin Laden, 54, the founder of the Islamist network that killed more than 3,000 people in the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks in the United States.

U.S. officials confirmed Tuesday that 10 hard drives, five computers and more than 100 storage devices were recovered from the compound. The specific numbers were first reported by CNN.
U.S. officials would not discuss details of what might be in the papers and on the computer drives, including whether the material was encrypted. But in an interview with NBC News’ Brian Williams, CIA Director Leon Panetta said, “The reality is that we picked up an awful lot of information there at the compound.”


92 posted on 01/05/2014 2:34:51 PM PST by ansel12 ( Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: NKP_Vet
I STILL believe that Bin Laden was killed at Tora Bora, and that GWB decided to keep it a mystery so we could smoke out more of them and to keep Al Qaeda leader-less but guessing, which would have been a good strategic move (had they known that he was dead, new leadership would have formed).

I think Obama made up the raid stuff to boost his ratings and re-election chances.

93 posted on 01/05/2014 2:38:26 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: 353FMG
It is most likely that the previous administration knew every detail about this enigma called Obama but didn’t do anything about it.

That's the conclusion I've always drawn from this image:


94 posted on 01/05/2014 2:46:37 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: LoveUSA
Nevermind.

That's the name of a grunge album. The term you're looking for is, 'never mind'.

(don't mind me. Just a pet peeve of mine)

95 posted on 01/05/2014 2:52:30 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Hulka

obamacre is settled law, right? How many times has obama changed that ‘settled law’ to suit his whims without going to congress first? He’s still doing it.
During the auto bailout, he completely ignored ‘settled’ banktuptcy laws to reward the uaw.
He refused to uphold DOMA. He granted amnesty to illegal aliens by executibe order. He overrode congress to give millions of dollars they explicirly denied...to terrorists.
He ran guns into Mexico, Honduras, and elsewhere. Americans were and are still being murdered by those guns as are Mexicans.
He made recess appointments while congress was not in recess.
And there are many more where they came from.
But you go right ahead and trust this government to follow the letter of the law and have a good day yourself...Sparky.


96 posted on 01/05/2014 3:55:37 PM PST by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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To: Windflier
Just a peeve of mine

Me, too! Wrong grammar is something I'm sick of!

(translation: I also am weary of poor grammar!) : D

97 posted on 01/05/2014 4:56:02 PM PST by LoveUSA (God employs Man's strength; Satan exploits Man's weakness.)
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To: ansel12

And once again you ignore the links I sent that said there were no telephone or internet capability in the compound.

I’ve suspected for a while now that you’re an Obama fan and you believing his fabricated story on killing Bin Laden proves it.


98 posted on 01/05/2014 5:30:21 PM PST by NKP_Vet ("Rather than love, than money, than fame, then give truth" ~ Henry David Thoreau)
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To: NKP_Vet
I know a friend who knows a friend who..........(fill in the blanks).....

If that's the best this conspiracy can do then I'm out..............

FWIW I never bought the body bag dumping of Bin Laden off a ship, but that doesn't mean I'm buying into this one either........sheesh!

99 posted on 01/05/2014 5:36:59 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Miss Muffit suffered from arachnophobia.....)
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To: NKP_Vet
Why must you lash out as you do when someone tries to correct your goofy claim? Your statement was totally false.

And don’t forget that the initial stories coming out of the media were his compound was primitive, no TV, no computers, no nothing. Then within a couple of weeks the same compound was being referred to as a “command center” for all worldwide terrorist activities, and that Bin Laden was the still the acknowledged mastermind and on-scene leader of Al Queda. All the sudden his once primitive compound contained all sorts of intelligence information that would be used for years to come to fight terrorism.

You are amazing, it was a million dollar compound, and as my post 92 pointed out *"“They didn’t use land lines or the Internet, but they did use something else, cell phones,” said the official."*.

"Modern Security" not "primitive", the cell phone use is what ruined that plan.

The million dollar command center that was Bin Ladens compound and filled with computers, did not use landlines and internet for security reasons.

The media covered all this from day one despite your made up nonsense.

""By MIKE ALLEN | 5/2/11 7:51 PM EDT
The assault force of Navy SEALs snatched a trove of computer drives and disks during their weekend raid on Osama bin Laden’s compound, yielding what a U.S. official called “the mother lode of intelligence.”
The special operations forces grabbed personal computers, thumb drives and electronic equipment during the lightning raid that killed bin Laden, officials told POLITICO.""

100 posted on 01/05/2014 6:01:57 PM PST by ansel12 ( Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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