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GOP senators push ObamaCare alternative that scraps mandates
The Hill ^ | January 27, 2014 | Jonathan Easley

Posted on 01/28/2014 12:02:51 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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1 posted on 01/28/2014 12:02:51 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: SheLion; Eric Blair 2084; -YYZ-; 31R1O; 383rr; AFreeBird; AGreatPer; Alamo-Girl; Alia; altura; ...

I could get behind this act, as a stepping stone back to an actual free market in health insurance and health care, but a GOP nanny state is still a nanny state.

Nanny State PING!


2 posted on 01/28/2014 12:04:01 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (...)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

No “alternatives” other than going back to the status quo ( pre-Obama).


3 posted on 01/28/2014 12:09:02 PM PST by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Insurance shouldn’t cover preexisting conditions. If it did, its not insurance but Welfare. Imagine if insurance cover car/house insurance after it burn down


4 posted on 01/28/2014 12:09:49 PM PST by 4rcane
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
The problem that these senators fail to see is that what they want replaced is the core of Obama's plan.

He doesn't want health care for all. He doesn't want it to be cheap. He means to have the system crushed and will brook no dissent or interference in achieving that goal.

The sooner the dunderheads in the GOP realize this the sooner a real fight can begin. They are all walking around like little Neville Chamberlain-bots.

5 posted on 01/28/2014 12:12:59 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts ("The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it." - George Orwell)
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If nanny state light is what will happen, then let’s just go back to what we had before. It was the best health care in the world.

To take care of the uninsured sick, we have a nation in which every county has at least one county health clinic. Add a PA or Nurse Practitioner to each whose numbers jump, and tell the uninsured that the clinic will always be their first stop before going to the local hospital with an authorization for payment from the clinic to the Fed. This would, of course, include pre-existing conditions.

And, of course, allow insurance to be bought across state lines. Initiate tort reform regarding medical care.


6 posted on 01/28/2014 12:17:45 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
I will not support any health care bill that does not include interstate policy purchases. I buy ALL my other insurance in Texas through USAA, why not health too? That one provision alone will clear up a lot of problems.
7 posted on 01/28/2014 12:19:21 PM PST by atomic_dog
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

How do you deal with the free-rider problem?


8 posted on 01/28/2014 12:20:38 PM PST by babble-on
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

You know, I have heard a fair number of conservative and libertarian doctors say they would be ok with a single payer health care system at least temporarily - if only so that health care customers can actually see it laid out for them what they are paying for under a fed run system and can finally understand conceptually that making health care “affordable” for everyone really does mean they foot the bill for everyone else’s poor life choices.


9 posted on 01/28/2014 12:20:56 PM PST by freedom462
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Put everything back. Implement tort reform (lower insurance costs to doctors means lower costs to patients) and allow competition across state lines will mean lower prices.

From there you ca. Take the savings and put a plan in place for Medicaid and Medicare.


10 posted on 01/28/2014 12:22:14 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz ("The GOP fights its own base with far more vigor than it employs in fighting the Dims.")
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To: xzins
we have a nation in which every county has at least one county health clinic.

Really? There are no "county health clinics" anywhere near me. Counties around here and in adjacent states aren't involved in anything like that.

11 posted on 01/28/2014 12:27:09 PM PST by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: freedom462

Yes, that idea may be helpful to people in that manner, but the closest thing to eternity on this earth is a government program, to paraphrase Ronald Reagan.


12 posted on 01/28/2014 12:28:12 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (...)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I’m for the Care Responsibility Action Program.


13 posted on 01/28/2014 12:30:09 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: steve86

What state you from?


14 posted on 01/28/2014 12:33:43 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: 4rcane
Insurance shouldn’t cover preexisting conditions.

(I didn't quote the "burning house" part because it has become an annoying cliché).

Maybe insurance shouldn't cover pre-existing conditions but why should a pre-existing condition prevent a person from obtaining health insurance for unrelated medical problems, which was the previous system? Why not just exclude the pre-existing condition?

15 posted on 01/28/2014 12:36:57 PM PST by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
At this point, 50% of former insured people are now individuals with preexisting ailments since their policies were canceled. Insurance providers were bound to cover them before the mandates. Now that canceled, what insurer in their right mind would cover them again for the same price? ACA made matters worse not better! What do I do in my 50’s if I had previous medical conditions? Die and die fast according to the Democrats. Yet they blame the “no balls” Repubs for that! Sic! They effed the whole system up!
16 posted on 01/28/2014 12:37:11 PM PST by poobear (Socialism in the minds of the elites, is a con-game for the serfs, nothing more.)
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Not so sure this is a good idea, but if they want to sell it, these old duffers really ought to give the thing a NAME other than the “Old Republicans’ Thing.”.

It’s in the very FIRST week of Marketing 101.

As usual, when it comes to communicating, Republicans are complete morons.


17 posted on 01/28/2014 12:39:40 PM PST by cookcounty (IRS = Internal Revenge Service.)
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"Not so sure this is a good idea, but if they want to sell it, these old duffers really ought to give the thing a NAME other than the “Old Republicans’ Thing.”.

Yes, I'm, aware they're calling it the CARE Act, but when these three old guys were interviewed at length about it, they referred to it , EXCLUSIVELY, as "Our Plan."

Duh.

18 posted on 01/28/2014 12:43:23 PM PST by cookcounty (IRS = Internal Revenge Service.)
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To: xzins

County public health departments in the northwest send inspectors out to check restaurant and grocery sanitation — code enforcement — and the department does emergency planning and education, and employs the coroner, but does not see patients at any facility. Even phased out flu vaccinations several years ago. WIC has been integrated with private health clinics although funded partly by the county.


19 posted on 01/28/2014 12:48:04 PM PST by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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What state?


20 posted on 01/28/2014 12:48:48 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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