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1 posted on 01/28/2014 12:02:51 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: SheLion; Eric Blair 2084; -YYZ-; 31R1O; 383rr; AFreeBird; AGreatPer; Alamo-Girl; Alia; altura; ...

I could get behind this act, as a stepping stone back to an actual free market in health insurance and health care, but a GOP nanny state is still a nanny state.

Nanny State PING!


2 posted on 01/28/2014 12:04:01 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (...)
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No “alternatives” other than going back to the status quo ( pre-Obama).


3 posted on 01/28/2014 12:09:02 PM PST by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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Insurance shouldn’t cover preexisting conditions. If it did, its not insurance but Welfare. Imagine if insurance cover car/house insurance after it burn down


4 posted on 01/28/2014 12:09:49 PM PST by 4rcane
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
The problem that these senators fail to see is that what they want replaced is the core of Obama's plan.

He doesn't want health care for all. He doesn't want it to be cheap. He means to have the system crushed and will brook no dissent or interference in achieving that goal.

The sooner the dunderheads in the GOP realize this the sooner a real fight can begin. They are all walking around like little Neville Chamberlain-bots.

5 posted on 01/28/2014 12:12:59 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts ("The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it." - George Orwell)
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How do you deal with the free-rider problem?


8 posted on 01/28/2014 12:20:38 PM PST by babble-on
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I’m for the Care Responsibility Action Program.


13 posted on 01/28/2014 12:30:09 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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At this point, 50% of former insured people are now individuals with preexisting ailments since their policies were canceled. Insurance providers were bound to cover them before the mandates. Now that canceled, what insurer in their right mind would cover them again for the same price? ACA made matters worse not better! What do I do in my 50’s if I had previous medical conditions? Die and die fast according to the Democrats. Yet they blame the “no balls” Repubs for that! Sic! They effed the whole system up!
16 posted on 01/28/2014 12:37:11 PM PST by poobear (Socialism in the minds of the elites, is a con-game for the serfs, nothing more.)
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Not so sure this is a good idea, but if they want to sell it, these old duffers really ought to give the thing a NAME other than the “Old Republicans’ Thing.”.

It’s in the very FIRST week of Marketing 101.

As usual, when it comes to communicating, Republicans are complete morons.


17 posted on 01/28/2014 12:39:40 PM PST by cookcounty (IRS = Internal Revenge Service.)
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“But the GOP proposal, known as the Patient Choice, Affordability, Responsibility and Empowerment (CARE) Act, would also weaken one of ObamaCare’s most popular provisions, by giving insurers an opening to discriminate against people with pre-existing conditions.”

No spin there. Or at least no understanding of what insurance is supposed to do.


22 posted on 01/28/2014 1:03:55 PM PST by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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Obama will reject it anyway so there is no point complaining about it.

Now that people are actually covered by Obamacare its more difficult for the elected to just take it away and say ‘Good luck’


23 posted on 01/28/2014 1:29:07 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'Any path to US citizenship for illegals HERE is a special path to it ')
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yeah ... that’s it ... lets fix it ...


24 posted on 01/28/2014 1:43:59 PM PST by dartuser
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by giving insurers an opening to discriminate against people with pre-existing conditions.

The blunt truth is that there can be no system that requires insurers to insure pre-existing conditions that does not involve some type of broad based (read: taxpayer) subsidy. Insurers are private businesses. The only way to make money is to cover unknown catastrophic risks, not catastrophic risks that are likely to happen.

As conservative as I am, I might be willing to support some level of taxation for a limited category truly catastrophic pre-existing conditions; provided that the individual has a co-pay that is meaningful. The alternative is to bankrupt these people.

26 posted on 01/28/2014 2:02:04 PM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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Working hard with “propaganda=industry”. “Insurance” is NOT industry.

And “insurance” is a collective communism. And they’re working REAL HARD with their installed fascists = Repulico-Extorters, that represent them and not the people. And this is a set up for full blown Romney-ExtortionCare, with forced letters of compliance from the communist insurance at the state level. The mandate will come from the state of residence. Decievers.

Steal and invest, steal and invest.


28 posted on 01/28/2014 2:18:34 PM PST by Varsity Flight (Extortion-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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It has the worst aspects of Obama care and then takes it even further. Government subsidies for anyone making roughly $95K or less. Has anyone done the math on that? Have they factored in all the companies that will drop their own insurance and push their employees into the federal plan? And what about the costs? As bad as it was, one thing Obamacare got right is that insurance companies need young, healthy people in the plan to offset the cost of those making the most claims. The GOP plan will be used most by those who need insurance the most, and will drive up the costs of insurance and the cost that people will pay.

And those of us who get their insurance through their employer? We're going to see our taxes go up because we're going to see 35% of our premium added to our taxable income. So I'll be taxed to provide insurance for others. And when they find out that 35% isn't enough then what? How high will you go?

Back to the drawing board, guys. If this is the best you've got then I have to say that Obamacare impacts me less.

32 posted on 01/28/2014 3:15:45 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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It doesn’t repeal or reform... pre-existing conditions remain ,community ratings remain, tax credits still given to corporations for health insurance (instead of to the individials-no portability )

what a joke.


34 posted on 01/28/2014 3:18:01 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad and lived with his parents .)
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