Posted on 02/10/2014 3:36:57 AM PST by JOHN W K
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TheBlaze,
Feb. 4, 2014
"Texas Sen. Ted Cruz (R) said there is a “pattern of lawlessness” underway by the Obama administration that is truly “breathtaking,” and it should not only concern Republicans.
“Suppose the next president says, ‘I’m instructing the Treasury Department [to] no longer collect taxes at a higher rate than 25%,” Cruz remarked on Glenn Beck’s radio program Tuesday. “That happens to be policy I agree with. I would love to see moving towards tax reform and lowering the top rates. And yet, that would be an extraordinarily bad outcome from the perspective of the Constitution and the protection of the liberty of the people.”
Until Congress is forbidden to lay and collect any tax calculated from profits, gains and other "incomes", returning us to our Constitution’s original tax plan, productive citizens will not only be singled out and enslaved under this discriminatory and despotic tax, but under the heal of our federal government who use it as a weapon to intimidate those who dare to speak out against, or pose a threat to our Washington Establishment. Does Senator Cruz not realize this? Lowering top rates and keeping this tax alive does absolutely nothing to remove this power of taxation which is used to cause many of our miseries.
Have we not suffered enough under this tax to end experimenting with it and return to the wisdom of our Founder’s original tax plan, especially its rule requiring any general tax laid among the states to be apportioned?
JWK
“The apportionment of representation and taxation by the same scale is just; it removes the objection, that, while Virginia paid one sixth part of the expenses of the Union, she had no more weight in public counsels than Delaware, which paid but a very small portion”3 Elliot’s 41___ PENDLETON, during our Constitution’s ratification debates
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NO! Scrap the current system and go one flat rate for everybody!
Indeed. The very concept of “income” taxes is abhorrent. What does a man possess for his very own any more than the fruit of his labor or the product of his creativity?
If the definition of slavery is an income tax rate of 100%, then any lesser percentage is merely a matter of degree.
JWK
Cruz’s point was of course about Obama’s lawlessness, no about the details of tax policy.
As to supporting the income tax, most don’t support it, however at this point in time the only politically possible solution would be a Flat Tax a la Forbes. Even that will be very difficult repealing the 16th Amendment is a fools errand without 67 Non RINO’s/dems in the Senate and we are far far away from that scenario.
I suggest you see: Ted Cruz: ‘Abolish the IRS’:
”Hours before the House Appropriations Committee held a hearing on political targeting at the Internal Revenue Service, Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) had a simple solution to the agency's problems — get rid of it altogether.
Cruz proposed a flat tax during the 2012 election, but he said he would keep a standard deduction for lower-income earners, as well as deductions for mortgage interest and charitable donations.
Former Rep. Ron Paul (R-Tex.) has frequently called for the abolition of the IRS. He would have gone further than Cruz by also eliminating the income tax.”
If Senator Cruz is sincere about real tax reform, he ought to propose the following:
House/Senate Joint Resolution
Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to repeal the sixteenth article of amendment and end taxes calculated from profits, gains, salaries and other “incomes”.
Section 1: The sixteenth article of amendment to the Constitution of the United States is hereby repealed.
Section 2: Congress is henceforth forbidden to lay ``any`` tax or burden calculated from profits, gains, interest, salaries, wages, tips, inheritances or any other lawfully realized money.
Section 3: This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by three fourths of the several States, as provided in the Constitution, within seven years from the date of the submission thereof to the States by the Congress
And you are correct that we will never get real tax reform from “RINOs. That is why a real conservative needs to step forward an offer real reform so the people can unit under it and elect member to Congress this coming election who do support real tax reform as laid out above.
JWK
“Honest money and honest taxation, the Key to America’s future Prosperity“ ___ from “Prosperity Restored by the State Rate Tax Plan”, no longer in print.
This from Cruz is disappointing.
The IRS has become the Gestapo of government oppression.
Yet even Cruz appreciates the power & control of income taxation.
That still requires the IRS.
/johnny
I support a flat rate tax that EVERYONE pays. Make it 10% and the govt will increase their revenue 5 times because the leeches who suck on the golden teat will be taxed also.Its not socialism. Its a simple flat tax.Money to run the country has to come from somewhere.Its a lot less painful than the capital gains tax that just went into effect.Tax anyone who has income over $12,000.00/yr.
Would you support withdrawing Congress’ power to lay and collect taxes calculated from profits, gains, interest, salaries, wages, tips, inheritances or any other lawfully realized money?
JWK
I’m glad someone is paying attention. I’d like to hear the answer to that as well.
Are you really ok with 45 percent of our nation’s population who pay no taxes on incomes being allowed to vote for representatives who spend federal revenue which the remaining 55 percent of our nation’s hard working and productive population has contributed into our federal treasury via taxes on incomes when our Constitution requires “Representatives and direct taxes Shall be apportioned among the Several States”?
JWK
If we can make 51 percent of America’s population dependent upon an Obama, welfare, food stamp, section 8 housing, college loan check, we can then bribe them for their vote, keep ourselves in power and keep the remaining portion of America’s productive population enslaved to pay the bills ____ Obama’s Marxist game plan, a plan to establish a federal plantation and redistribute the incomes which wage earners, business and investors have worked to produced.
The only problem with your insulting remark is that it is not true.
Why must you lie simply because I question what is being proposed?
JWK
/johnny
Cruz needs to go to the heart of the matter, by saying that the unconstitutional powers taken by the POTUS, almost since the beginning of the republic, need to be trimmed.
This means a conservative POTUS needs to act with congress to *reduce* the power of his office. And that goes against the grain for most politicians.
All Republican candidates need to be asked this question bluntly, and if in any way they suggest that *they* are different, that *they* have enough self control to use these unconstitutional powers wisely, then *they* are not suitable to be candidates. It really is a litmus test.
The powers that need to be controlled, include:
1) Outlawing the Presidential Signing Statement, which is by far the most unconstitutional act, and is forcing a constitutional crisis, with the POTUS assuming both legislative and judicial powers.
2) Prohibiting the creation of “Czars”, not approved by the senate; establishing very clear rules to recess appointments and executive privilege, and the reduction of the presidential proclamation to ceremonial only (along with the return of most state land takings).
3) The restoration of the War Powers Act and the Posse Comitatus Act, as well as criminalizing any and all subordinate federal employees who violate these acts.
4) The abrogation of any treaties or agreements not approved by the senate, as well as strict rules on which foreign agreements do not rise to the level of treaties.
5) The purging of the federal government of those employees who misused their office for political purposes, even if “they were only following orders.” Likewise, that they be banned from further government employ, and that no federal contract can be made with any company that employs them.
6) That all monies paid to states are done with block grants, which the federal government may audit, but may not piggyback any additional mandates to.
Great...lower the taxes on people making more money than God, not a word about cutting suburban welfare like tax credits for kids people couldn’t afford in the first place and the rest of us get handed the bill. You people who think this guy is some kind of second coming are setting yourselves up for a big let down.
Senator Cruz, you are not mentioning the one thing which would in fact bring back American jobs:
Trade tariffs.
Just saying.
“NO! Scrap the current system and go one flat rate for everybody!”
I agree. This way accountants and tax lawyers can spend more time taking care of their kids.
If they tax everybody above $12,000.00 income the number of people dependent on Obummer will be way below 45% because a higher percentage of people would have to pay an income tax.A person on welfare today with two kids can get a govt. stipend equal to about 50K for just sitting on their butt ,smoking dope ,and popping out babies.We also have to bring back the rule which means you have to be ACTIVELY seeking employment to receieve govt. benefits.
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