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‘Killer cops aren’t welcome here!’ Officer Who Murdered Kelly Thomas, Driven Out Of Restaurant
Political Blind Spot ^ | February 12, 2014 | Pbspot admin

Posted on 02/13/2014 7:29:01 AM PST by Altariel

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To: cripplecreek

Mike Rowe beat somebody to death? Who? Why haven’t I heard about it?

(If beating somebody to death isn’t involved, then your analogy is in error.)


101 posted on 02/13/2014 3:37:00 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: cripplecreek

Sure the owner is free to decide. He could have thrown all the other customers out and locked the door. He had plenty of options available.


102 posted on 02/13/2014 3:38:04 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: momtothree
There is very little legally that a parent can do once their child hits age 18. They can no longer force him to take his medication. They can’t institutionalize him unless he is homicidal or suicidal and that is only for a short 72 hour evaluation.

One of my best friends went thru hell with his brother who was diagnosed as schizophrenic.............the brother was a combat Vietnam vet, a graduate of the University of Michigan and a successful businessman when he was beset by the illness......

His schizophrenia ultimately caused him to die from cancer 3 years ago when he refused treatment from his attending doctors......

103 posted on 02/13/2014 3:40:32 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (I think I've lost my mojo.....)
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To: Shimmer1
Does Shimmer sound like a guy

What are you wearing right now?

104 posted on 02/13/2014 4:27:01 PM PST by xone
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To: icwhatudo

Meanwhile, back to the facts in the case...

The testimony of Corporal Rubio, the officers use of force trainer, was key.

He testified:

- the actions were within the department’s policies.
- “the Taser that Cicinelli used on Thomas wasn’t working correctly because Thomas continued to fight and the device made a noise that indicated it was being “ineffective.”
- that after watching the video, Cicinelli hit Thomas three times in the head with the Taser. Officers, he said, are allowed to improvise with their weapons.
-“In the video, all things considered, I don’t see anything out of policy,” Rubio said.

“Defense attorneys also asked Rubio about a part in the video in which Ramos put on white latex gloves and tells Thomas, “See these fists? ... They’re getting ready to f-— you up.”

Prosecutors have identified the moment as the point at which the encounter escalated from routine to deadly.

John Barnett, who is representing Ramos, asked Rubio if his client’s words were consistent with his training.

“Yes, it was a conditional threat,” Rubio said. “The profanity may be off-color and may be a slight policy violation.”

Still the use of words, even profane ones, as a means to avoid endangering an officer or suspect is acceptable, Rubio said.


This is key because the expert brought in from the prosecution stated in court that the officers were entitled to act in accordance with their training.

Also key is the point the defense made to the jury that the city continued to use Corporal Rubio as the use of force trainer even after learning what he would testify to. Asking..”If what he was training these officers was wrong, why didn’t they fire him?”


105 posted on 02/13/2014 6:16:35 PM PST by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: icwhatudo

One more thing.

I was wondering what was in the backpack that Thomas refused to put down and found this:

“On the night of July 5, 2011, Kelly Thomas was in possession of a backpack,” said Hughes. “Inside that backpack was the passport, a computer tablet, mail addressed to an attorney and keys to a Lexus vehicle. None of these items belonged to Kelly Thomas.”

It was later learned after the date of the incident, that the owner of the backpack inadvertently left his backpack in a public place and that the keys, the passport, and the computer tablet belonged to the owner of that backpack, he said.” The attorney stated he had thrown his mail in a trashcan in the area.


106 posted on 02/13/2014 6:23:47 PM PST by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: xone

Mmmmm. something shimmery, of course!


107 posted on 02/13/2014 6:42:19 PM PST by Shimmer1
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To: xone

Ohhh. I get it. Khakis!!!! (not)


108 posted on 02/13/2014 7:55:13 PM PST by Shimmer1
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To: Mathews

“How could this guy allow his son to live on the streets?”

His family tried repeatedly. Kelly Thomas was an adult, and it is very hard to get someone put into a mental hospital if they refuse to go.


109 posted on 02/13/2014 9:25:14 PM PST by Pelham (If you donÂ’t deport itÂ’s amnesty by default.)
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To: Shimmer1

Thank you too


110 posted on 02/13/2014 11:42:32 PM PST by wardaddy (Bus to Shreveport... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYF682WYRtw&feature=youtube_gdata_)
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To: Altariel

That pig will get his....eventually.


111 posted on 02/13/2014 11:52:13 PM PST by LanaTurnerOverdrive ("I've done things in my life I'm not proud of. And the things I am proud of are disgusting.")
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To: Pelham

That is a damn shame. I pray my family never has to go through something like this.


112 posted on 02/14/2014 7:27:19 AM PST by Mathews (Ecclesiastes 10:2 (NIV), Luke 22:36 (NIV))
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To: Uncle Chip
Is there any effort out there to line up some psychiatric treatment for members of the jury???

Don't blame the jury! Crappy prosecutors always let the juries take the heat for their stupidity/evil (OJ, Rodney King, etc.). Besides, I'm convinced this DA threw the case because, let's face it, he's LE.

113 posted on 02/14/2014 1:23:08 PM PST by Forgotten Amendments (I remember when a President having an "enemies list" was a scandal. Now, they have a kill list.)
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To: cripplecreek

You must have mental illness.

“They’re cowardly marxist scum no different than the d-bags who sue bakeries for not serving a protected class.”

They should have been chanting:”go home and shoot yourself. Go home and hang yourself!! You’re an enemy of the people!!!


114 posted on 02/14/2014 1:40:27 PM PST by Vincent 567
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To: vkevt

Oh goodie another marxist troll to ignore.


115 posted on 02/14/2014 1:44:54 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

Neither him nor his accomplice should be able to buy groceries within 100 miles.There should be a group of no less than 100 people outside his house 24 hours a day.They should disturb his peace and drive him into a deep,deep depression. Folks should spit on the sidewalk when he passes. They should then mock putting on gloves while saying:”see these hands,they’re going to f***k you up!” They should then laugh with all the verisimilitude they can muster. The wife,the children,all but the most distant relatives should be shunned. Drive this murderer into a cave in the desert!!


116 posted on 02/14/2014 2:24:10 PM PST by Vincent 567
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To: vkevt

I don’t really care, my problem is little marxist scum like you who would do the world a favor by taking your own advice for the cop. (who was found innocent by a jury)

Now talk to someone else.


117 posted on 02/14/2014 2:30:59 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: vkevt

“Daddy,help me daddy!”


118 posted on 02/14/2014 3:56:32 PM PST by Vincent 567
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To: Altariel

Excellent. It’s way past time we brought back shunning.


119 posted on 02/14/2014 4:02:32 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: vkevt

More Marxist drivel from me.

Ramos and Cicinelli may still face federal charges, as the FBI is currently reexamining the case.

Perhaps there’s some more minor unpleasantness for the killing crew but Kelly’s body continues to liquify and decompose.

I worked on an acute psychiatric admissions ward for 36 years. We could have restrained Kelly without hurting him. AT ALL.

Can someone locate an post the ICU photo? It should have a thread of its own every day to inflame the horror,hatred,revulsion of what those breathing fungi did to this poor man.


120 posted on 02/14/2014 4:33:25 PM PST by Vincent 567
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