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1 posted on 02/23/2014 3:09:07 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

So, help me out here—a member of the conspiracy willfully posted photos of a different plane?


2 posted on 02/23/2014 3:10:52 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: butterdezillion
Lang's plane (close up; the original can be seen at http://khnl.images.worldnow.com/images/3099791_G.jpg ): Here's the photo of the plane from Puentes' video:
3 posted on 02/23/2014 3:12:20 PM PST by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/)
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To: paythefiddler; LucyT; null and void; rolling_stone; bitt; Nachum; Venturer; little jeremiah; ...

ping.

The Fuddy story is falling apart. The photos that Josh Lang gave to the media, claiming they were of the Fuddy crash.... were of a different plane. His plane has no window between the door and the tail.

Please ping your lists. This whole story stinks of deception.


5 posted on 02/23/2014 3:15:10 PM PST by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/)
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To: butterdezillion

The windows are there. In the blue-tinted images the aircraft is sitting much lower in the water and they’re harder to see, but they’re there.


7 posted on 02/23/2014 3:15:58 PM PST by PLMerite
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To: butterdezillion

You need to look again. There is a window between the door and the tail. The door is still open. You can see the shadow from the open door is in front of the window.


9 posted on 02/23/2014 3:18:51 PM PST by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: butterdezillion

I asked my husband who is a GA and he says they are not the same plane.
He gave a long explanation as to why, most of which went over my head.
Then he asked if there was any way to zoom in on the tail number? Because apparently you can find out who owns the plan, its manifest and type.


10 posted on 02/23/2014 3:20:16 PM PST by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains')
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To: butterdezillion

And here you go again, after multiple failures at making some conspiracy out of this...

Are there people around you that care for you?
What do they say about this fixation? Are there
some kind of outreach or therapy programs near you?


11 posted on 02/23/2014 3:20:43 PM PST by humblegunner
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To: butterdezillion

http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/24246422/exclusive-pilot-describes-discovering-molokai-plane-crash


16 posted on 02/23/2014 3:23:10 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: butterdezillion
Well the information on the bottom plane where you can see the "N" number is:

N-number : N687MA Aircraft Serial Number : 208B1002 Aircraft Manufacturer : CESSNA Model : 208B Engine Manufacturer : P&W Model : PT6A SER Aircraft Year : 2002 Owner Name : LEIS AIR LLC Owner Address : C/O HAWAII PREMIER REALTY : 2265 HOONEE PL STE 110 HONOLULU, HI, 96819 Type of Owner : Corporation Registration Date : 13-Aug-2008 Airworthiness Certificate Type : Standard Approved Operations : Normal

To bad can't read the other "N" number

20 posted on 02/23/2014 3:28:32 PM PST by SkyDancer (I Believe In The Law Until It Intereferes With Justice.)
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To: butterdezillion
I think you're right.

At a glance, it looks like the one in the Fuddy crash is the larger Grand Caravan.

The other one pictured looks like the smaller Caravan.

26 posted on 02/23/2014 3:33:16 PM PST by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: butterdezillion

So.. let’s review:

First, she was depicted in a coffin of the wrong size.

Second, her hands and a mysterious lump in the casket
were Photoshopped onto the news report.

Third, You FAIL at image manipulation and figure out that
you had inexpertly jammed them into a word processing program.

Fourth, you attribute the resultant problems as black-ops
hacking directed at you.

Next, you found a diver-assassin lurking in some video you saw on the news.

Now you figure there are different planes.
Oh, no.. not because you WANT TO BELIEVE real hard..
but because it’s the truth and you are the one to see it.

Cheers.

I like crazy people, wouldn’t have you any other way.


30 posted on 02/23/2014 3:36:50 PM PST by humblegunner
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There is a window between the door and tail on Lang’s photo.

Rotate your larger Lang photo so that the body of the plane is horizontal and you can see the window next to the open door. The plane’s door opens upward and the window IN the door frame and door frame casts a shadow across the top of the plane.

You can see the light of the door’s window is casting a lighter shadow in the middle of the door frame shadow across the top of the plane.

You are mistaking the first window by the tail as the door.


42 posted on 02/23/2014 3:42:09 PM PST by Felis cactus II
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To: butterdezillion

Dealing w some of the Alinskyites...I forgot to post orig comment

Those are 2 different planes...the windows are different...and it is a different type of door. I mean...its QUITE OBVIOUS those are 2 diff planes


57 posted on 02/23/2014 3:55:55 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (Diversity is just racism against white folks)
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David copperfield makes an airplane disappear...

Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping!

To get onto The Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping List you must threaten to report me to the Mods if I don't add you to the list...

64 posted on 02/23/2014 4:00:53 PM PST by null and void (<--- unwilling cattle-car passenger on the bullet train to serfdom)
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To: butterdezillion

This conspiracy "research" of yours? Just stop it.

67 posted on 02/23/2014 4:04:56 PM PST by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: butterdezillion

There is a window. Look on the roof of the Plane in the first photo, you can clearly see the shadow of the open hatch/door cast complete with window upon the roof of the plane.

Now, find the origin of the shadow ... where it meets the door. See how you are looking at the open edge of the door? That makes it look like the last window between the door and the tail look like a door, when in fact it is a window.


70 posted on 02/23/2014 4:08:43 PM PST by Usagi_yo (Standardization is an Evolutionary dead end.)
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To: butterdezillion

Window is there, plane as day - pun intended.

Nice try but epic conspiracy fail.


109 posted on 02/23/2014 5:02:48 PM PST by bolobaby
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To: butterdezillion
The airplane tail number, N587MA, clearly readable in post 107, is registered to LEIS AIR LLC · HONOLULU HI according to Flight Aware. Flight Aware also says it is a NURTANIO Aviocar (twin-turboprop) that last landed in Anchorage Alaska seven weeks ago.

????

131 posted on 02/23/2014 5:44:35 PM PST by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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Dead pool file update

The list, Ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

http://www.nachumlist.com/deadpool.htm


159 posted on 02/23/2014 6:19:50 PM PST by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: butterdezillion

Suggestion: print out both photos and *measure* the distances between the different features on the airframe. Express those distances as proportions or percentages of other distances. For example, in one photo the distance from the trailing edge of the right wing to the back edge of the last window is x percent of the distance from the trailing edge of the right wing to the leading edge of the horizontal stabilizer , so we should either see a window in that distance, or not, when we look at the other photo.

Similar logic applies to comparing the width of the tail to the distance from the right wing trailing edge to the horizontal stabiliser leading edge. The tail width doesn’t change in the B model, but the airfame is stretched fore and aft of the wing - so those distances are different in the a vs. B model.

http://www.cessna.com/caravan


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cessna_208_Caravan
“208B Grand Caravan
A 4 feet (1.2 m) stretch of the Caravan I. The 208B features a more powerful PT6A-114A engine.”


http://www.cessna.com/~/media/Files/caravan/super_cargomaster/grandcaravan_pim.ashx

pages 6-28- 6-34


https://www.aopa.org/Pilot-Resources/Aircraft-Ownership/Aircraft-Fact-Sheets/Cessna-208B-Grand-Caravan.aspx


Serial Number 208B1002 Status Valid
Manufacturer Name CESSNA Certificate Issue Date 08/13/2008
Model 208B

FAA REGISTRY
N-Number Inquiry Results
N687MA is Assigned
Data Updated each Federal Working Day at Midnight
http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/nnum_inquiry.aspx


FedEx liked the Cargomaster so much that the company then ordered a derivative with higher load capacity, the “Model 208B Super Cargomaster”, which featured a 1.22 meter (4 foot) fuselage stretch, obtained by inserting plugs fore and aft of the wing,

http://www.airvectors.net/avcvan.html


http://www.aero-news.net/images/content/general/2014/Hawaii-Crash-Capture-YouTube-0114a.JPG


http://www.baaa-acro.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/YV1183-1.jpg

http://www.baaa-acro.com/2009/archives/crash-of-a-cessna-208b-grand-caravan-off-la-tortuga/

http://www.baaa-acro.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/YV1183-2.jpg


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/plane-crashes-hawaii-killing-health-director-released-obama-birth-cert-article-1.1572282


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2536931/New-footage-shows-harrowing-moment-small-plane-crashed-Hawaii-killed-woman-published-President-Obamas-birth-certificate.html


http://www.zerosixright.com/molokai-hawaii/


One thing I wonder about : in lang’s picture, there is a foot wide shadow across the top of the left wing. What is causing the shadow?


185 posted on 02/23/2014 6:57:31 PM PST by speedbird57
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