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Constitutional Convention is Within Reach For Conservatives
Dignitas News Service ^ | July 17, 2014 | Paul M Winters

Posted on 07/17/2014 11:53:03 AM PDT by dignitasnews

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To: Publius

Recall the first CC was limited in scope, too. And that was promptly ignored as any limit would be here.


61 posted on 07/26/2014 10:00:16 PM PDT by arrogantsob
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To: GeronL

Jefferson had nothing to do with the Constitution and did not understand it much or accept it. Marshall and Hamilton are the authorities on the meaning.


62 posted on 07/26/2014 10:02:01 PM PDT by arrogantsob
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To: nathanbedford

Not much there is actually true, but carry on.


63 posted on 07/26/2014 10:03:39 PM PDT by arrogantsob
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To: Da Bilge Troll

They overestimated the intelligence of the People. That is clear from the way the electorate votes.


64 posted on 07/26/2014 10:05:55 PM PDT by arrogantsob
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To: Jagdgewehr

Thank You.

This is the type of insight the Republic needs.


65 posted on 07/26/2014 10:07:29 PM PDT by Rome2000
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To: Jagdgewehr
I wish for the return of the Constitutional Republic we were meant to be.

Let's be clear that this means the end of Universal Suffrage.

The Founders did not put a right to vote in the Constitution for a REASON.

The reason is that this nation was founded as a Republic, NOT a democracy.

Until the franchise is limited, we are no different than Venezuela.

Chavez, Obama,and Maduro are the fruits of Universal Suffrage.

The Same Reasoning, which will induce you to admit all Men, who have no Property, to vote, with those who have, for those Laws, which affect the Person will prove that you ought to admit Women and Children: for generally Speaking, Women and Children, have as good Judgment, and as independent Minds as those Men who are wholly destitute of Property: these last being to all Intents and Purposes as much dependent upon others, who will please to feed, cloath, and employ them, as Women are upon their Husbands, or Children on their Parents.

Depend upon it, sir, it is dangerous to open So fruitfull a Source of Controversy and Altercation, as would be opened by attempting to alter the Qualifications of Voters. There will be no End of it. New Claims will arise. Women will demand a Vote. Lads from 12 to 21 will think their Rights not enough attended to, and every Man, who has not a Farthing, will demand an equal Voice with any other in all Acts of State. It tends to confound and destroy all Distinctions, and prostrate all Ranks, to one common Level.

-John Adams

We arguably do not have free and fair elections.

Fraud is rampant and goes unpunished.

Republicans are the blue blood country club banker faction of the Washingtonians, and Democrats merely the communist faction of the Washingtonians.

It's us outside the Beltway against the Washingtonians from both parties.

It's time to stop looking to DC for solutions to the problems the degenerate sons of bitches in DC have created in the first place.

Its time to think about ways to accelerate the collapse because only then can the Republic be reset and the Franchise limited as the Founders intended.

Nothing comes from DC other than higher taxes and more restrictions on our freedoms.

European Kings and Queens moved their courts to different parts of their realms to benefit each region and avoid depleting it's resources , yet our masters in the political class remain entrenched in the EVIL city on the Potomac and extort trillions of dollars every year from the productive class.

The productive class are now all slaves to DC and the Federal apparatchiks in Maryland and Virginia.

The greatest threat to the Liberty and Prosperity of the productive class are not a bunch of demented ragheads in the middle east, but the Federal apparatus.

Ted Kennedy (Suffer in Hell you degenerate MF) not only managed to murder Mary Jo Kopechne but is responsible for the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965, which ensured that white non comsymps would be the minority in terms of future immigration to the USA.

Since nobody seems to have a clue in the GOP that this is a problem and much less intends to do anything about it, the war is lost and the collapse is inevitable.

The Washingtonians from both parties intend to steal everything not nailed down from those outside DC and then bug out under military protection when the collapse comes and the riots start.

An electorate that elected Clinton and Obama twice and gave algore the popular vote is no different than the Venezuelans and Cubans electing Chavez and Castro; stupid and dangerous.

It's all over but the shouting for the 1st American Republic, it is predictably self destructing due to the imposition of Universal Suffrage.

Honest Ape mortally wounded the Republic when he brutally attacked and murdered the sons of the Founders, the last 150 years has been merely death rattle.

“Democracy… while it lasts is more bloody than either aristocracy or monarchy. Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There is never a democracy that did not commit suicide.”

- John Adams

66 posted on 07/26/2014 10:31:50 PM PDT by Rome2000
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To: arrogantsob; All
"It was established to limit STATE governments and increase the power of the federal government."

With all due respect arragantsob, you've got the wires completely crossed as to why the Founding States made the federal Constitution. In fact, Judge Andrew Napolitano will take about 3 minutes to read the federal government's relatively short list of constitutional Article I, Section 8 powers to you.

Judge Napolitano & the Constitution

And the Supreme Court has officially clarified, in terms of the 10th Amendment, that any power that is not in the relatively short list of powers that Judge Napolitano just read to you is prohibited to the federal government.

”From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited [emphasis added].” —United States v. Butler, 1936.

67 posted on 07/27/2014 10:41:41 AM PDT by Amendment10
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To: arrogantsob
In Federalist #40, James Madison disagrees with you.
68 posted on 07/27/2014 11:13:34 AM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: arrogantsob
"They overestimated the intelligence of the People. That is clear from the way the electorate votes."

What is the solution, then?

69 posted on 07/27/2014 2:17:44 PM PDT by Da Bilge Troll (Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
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To: Amendment10

The reason the Constitutional Convention was called was to increase the powers of the Central Government and decrease the powers of the States. And those powers were given to the federal government. This is why States’ Righters like George Clinton tried to sabotage the CC. But the Constitution did just that - Article I, Section 10 removed most of the states’ powers to cause harm to the nation. The use of the phrase “explicitly confined to...” wrt federal powers was voted down. Even specifying certain powers does not limit the means of carrying those powers out. Hamilton’s essay on the constitutionality of the National Bank is the definitive description of constitutionality. He was the greatest lawyer of his day and the most familiar with and understanding of the Constitution, writing 2/3s of the Federalist.


70 posted on 08/15/2014 11:09:00 AM PDT by arrogantsob
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