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Why Tesla Motors can't sell cars in most of the United States
Engadget ^ | July 17, 2014 | Ben Gilbert

Posted on 07/20/2014 8:07:19 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sell them online. Perhaps they could set up separate test drive franchises that don’t sell anything. They could also include airline tickets and hotel stays with each sale. Fly out and pick up your Tesla, then drive it home.


21 posted on 07/20/2014 8:53:49 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Conservatism is the political disposition of grown-ups.)
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To: gaijin

I see them all over Scottsdale, AZ. Beautiful machines.


22 posted on 07/20/2014 8:55:25 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (The greatest trick the Soviets ever pulled was convincing the world they didn't exist.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
"No one who left their flashlight in their vehicle overnight in the winter here would buy one...Batteries just don’t do that well in the cold."

Just FYI - I thought that and dug into it. The batteries have an insulation system around them that keeps them up to an appropriate temperature even in way sub-zero weather.

The technology has come a long ways in the last few years.

23 posted on 07/20/2014 8:57:12 PM PDT by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: ConservativeTeen

1.) $500 million loan from the U.S. Department of Energy.
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2.) $7,500 federal tax credit.
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3.) $2,500 California credit per car.
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4.) California Air Resources Board tax credits (it sells them)
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5.) $34 million California tax break incentive for building a plant in the San Francisco area.


24 posted on 07/20/2014 9:00:25 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Conservatism is the political disposition of grown-ups.)
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To: MV=PY
Leave them out overnight in -30 and then drive 130 miles to the nearest large town, with the heater and lights on and the wipers going?

I'll stick with the tech I know, thanks. It isn't perfect, but it hasn't killed me yet.

25 posted on 07/20/2014 9:06:48 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Iron Munro

exactly


26 posted on 07/20/2014 9:09:12 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

Exactly. There’s no objection to buying a Tesla from a dealer in Colorado or California and bringing or shipping it to Oklahoma or Texas. That’s how a neighbor of mine got his.

BTW, he decided it’s just not up to Iowa winters; shorter range and not enough heat. He can’t park it inside at work.


27 posted on 07/20/2014 9:10:40 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Dilbert San Diego

“In other words, could you have an auto franchise which is just a storefront, or an online presence, not a huge car lot with numerous cars for sale???”

That’s what most dealerships were outside of major cities a few decades ago, before they consolidated into fewer and fewer bigger and bigger lots. Every now and then, out in the country, you’ll still find a dealership with maybe a couple dozen pickups on the lot, which does most of its business in custom orders. I would imagine that small dealerships are more common out west, where the distances to the nearest major city can be much, much greater.


28 posted on 07/20/2014 9:15:54 PM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: Smokin' Joe

“I’ll stick with the tech I know, thanks. It isn’t perfect, but it hasn’t killed me yet.”

And that, my friends, is why those infernal combustion machines will never replace the trusty horse.


29 posted on 07/20/2014 9:21:12 PM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All
"As for the White House, the Obama Administration responded to a We the People petition last Friday afternoon regarding direct-to-consumer car sales. The petition specifically asked President Obama to "allow Tesla Motors to sell directly to consumers in all 50 states."
FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument

Is the WH taking advantage of these online "We the People" petitions to help unconstitutionally expand the federal government's powers? More specifically, regardless what FDR's activist justices wanted voters to think about the scope of Congress's Commerce Clause powers in Wickard v. Filburn , a previous generation of Constitution-respecting justices had clarified the following. They had clarified that the states have never delegated to the feds, expressly via the Constitution, the specific power to regulate intrastate commerce.

”State inspection laws, health laws, and laws for regulating the internal commerce of a State, and those which respect turnpike roads, ferries, &c. are not within the power granted to Congress [emphases added].” —Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.

So why are voters seemingly trying to find a new way for Obama to ignore the Constitution, instead of trying to resolve intrastate commerce issues through state lawamakers?

"Special assistant to the president for energy and climate change, Dan Utech, wrote, "Laws regulating auto sales are issues that have traditionally sat with lawmakers at the state level. We believe in the goal of improving consumer choice for American families, including more vehicles that provide savings at the pump for consumers. However, we understand that pre-empting current state laws on direct-to-consumer auto sales would require an act of Congress.""

Again, the above excerpt from the OP is more deception by the corrupt federal government. Unless the WH can sucessfully lead Congress to petition the states for an amendment to the Constitution to grant Congress the specific power to regulate intrastate vehicle sales, the feds currently have no such power.

30 posted on 07/20/2014 9:24:03 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Smokin' Joe

Hey, I don’t own one!

Just saying that they’re getting there. I live in one of those -30 degree areas and I wouldn’t bet on one (yet).


31 posted on 07/20/2014 9:26:37 PM PDT by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: gaijin

The worst I’ve heard about the Model S is that it’s too big. Imagine that for an electric car. People who have seen Teslas and ridden in them seem to love them.


32 posted on 07/20/2014 9:36:21 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: stocksthatgoup

Sell them on the internet. LOL”

Maybe on Amazon? Seems like they sell most everything else.


33 posted on 07/20/2014 9:43:52 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Look im not big on Tesla and the subsidies for cars prices they get. but they should be able to sell it in damn state they want without this crap..

free market is just that... free market..


34 posted on 07/20/2014 9:53:29 PM PDT by tophat9000 (An Eye for an Eye, a Word for a Word...nothing more)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I do not see why Tesla can not set up Tesla service center..and sell cars on line from the state they can sell in..with delivery the local service center...but really the should not need to play game


35 posted on 07/20/2014 9:59:25 PM PDT by tophat9000 (An Eye for an Eye, a Word for a Word...nothing more)
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To: Jeff Chandler
1.) $500 million loan from the U.S. Department of Energy.
2.) $7,500 federal tax credit.
3.) $2,500 California credit per car.
4.) California Air Resources Board tax credits (it sells them)
5.) $34 million California tax break incentive for building a plant in the San Francisco area.

Tesla Repays Department Of Energy Loan Nine Years Early - Only American Car Company To Have Paid Back Government

36 posted on 07/20/2014 10:12:49 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: ReignOfError
Keep in mind that current dealerships are all franchised under current state laws - and changing just one part of those laws may cause the unraveling of existing franchise law.

The law of unintended consequences will be working in the background.

37 posted on 07/20/2014 10:14:07 PM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: Talisker

Yes, the Department of Energy loan was the first government subsidy.


38 posted on 07/20/2014 10:19:20 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Conservatism is the political disposition of grown-ups.)
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To: texas booster

You could make that argument against any kind of government regulation, but you should be more worried about the unintended consequences of government regulations in the first place.


39 posted on 07/20/2014 10:38:01 PM PDT by Wayne07
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Won’t matter. Most people aren’t going to spend the price of a modest home on a car


40 posted on 07/20/2014 10:41:36 PM PDT by Nifster
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