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WI: Employee Shoots, Kills Attempted Robber at Innovative Optique
Gun Watch ^ | 17 August, 2014 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 08/17/2014 6:17:07 AM PDT by marktwain



Innovative Optique is a high end eyewear store in a suburb north of Milwaukee.   From the reviews, it appears to cater to those who can afford high quality, customized glasses.    Last year, a thief stole a pair of $2,000 sunglasses.   Last Friday, an employee shot and killed a 22 year old during the  course of an attempted armed robbery.   From channel3000.com:

Police said the gunfire occurred during an attempted robbery. They said 22-year-old Joshua Drake of Milwaukee tried to rob the store about noon, and an armed employee shot and killed him. The employee wasn't hurt.
Wisconsin has an interesting part of its firearms law that grants immunity from lawsuit for acts of an armed employee, if the concern did not ban legally carried guns from its premises.  This legislation has been considered in several other states.     From Wis. Stat. § 175.60(21)(b), (c):

(b) A person that does not prohibit an individual from carrying a concealed weapon on property that the person owns or occupies is immune from any liability arising from its decision.

It seems unlikely that the family of the attempted robber will be able successfully sue in this case.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; ccw; innovativeoptique; wi; wisconsin
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Most people believe that robbers and thieves should not be able to sue their intended victims.
1 posted on 08/17/2014 6:17:07 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain
Last year, a thief stole a pair of $2,000 sunglasses.

Ferals like their bling.

2 posted on 08/17/2014 6:19:09 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: Drew68

Hope the shooter is not white as whitey will be blamed along with the cops


3 posted on 08/17/2014 6:20:19 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: manc

$2000 will buy a lot of food. I have no use for $2000 glasses. Let us watch these ferals steal items like this, while we buy $2 sacks of beans, and doing other kinds of preparing. When the bling bling jerkholes shows up at our door, asking for water and food, they better not be sporting a 2k set of glasses that will be worthless. I probably will spend a bullet. LOL


4 posted on 08/17/2014 6:29:36 AM PDT by Klemper
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To: marktwain

Being suspicious, I googled “Joshua Drake” and, yes, he was Amish and had a criminal record. As an aside, Fox Point is where I lived for 12 and 2/3 years before moving to Knoxville, TN. It has an excellent police department with very quick response times and is an excellent upper middle class community, located about 9 miles north of downtown Milwaukee, to live in.


5 posted on 08/17/2014 6:33:16 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: Klemper

woman the other day were paying for her sopping by food stamps and WIC.
She was laughing , making jokes, and who could blame her after all I pay nearly 300 dollars a week for groceries while I also pay for hers.

She had French manicured nails, nice necklaces and got into a brand new Altima car.

Yea no wonder she is happy.


6 posted on 08/17/2014 6:33:59 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Drew68

I can’t even imagine wanting a $2k pair of glasses, a $200k car or a $3million dollar house. My mother once told me (in the ‘60’s) we can afford a Cadillac but we buy Oldsmobile’s. There is no need to make people focus in on the fact you have more money than they do. The few times when I was around people who had those things I found I didn’t much like them or their attitudes.


7 posted on 08/17/2014 6:37:10 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Gen.Blather

The book, ‘Millionaire Next Door’ by Stanley and Danko ought to be required reading. It addresses your correct observations.


8 posted on 08/17/2014 6:42:49 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: jjotto

“The book, ‘Millionaire Next Door’ by Stanley and Danko ought to be required reading. It addresses your correct observations.”

I recommend that book to the younger guys I meet. I pick up every penny I see. (I mostly meet younger guys in the gym now. They’ll get on the incline, drop a pocket full of change and not bother to pick it up. On a good week I make enough off the floor and the parking lot to buy a Micky-D’s small coffee. Oh, scan the ground by Micky-D’s drive-through. They never go outside to recover the change they drop.)


9 posted on 08/17/2014 6:45:56 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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I see. (I mostly meet younger guys in the gym now. They’ll get on the incline, drop a pocket full of change and not bother to pick it up. On a good week I make enough off the floor and the parking lot to buy a Micky-D’s small coffee. Oh, scan the ground by Micky-D’s drive-through. They never go outside to recover the change they drop.)

I don't have time for that. I'm too busy looking through the coin return slots on pay phones. Business sucks since they invented the cell phone.

10 posted on 08/17/2014 7:27:28 AM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree (When using "he" or "him" to refer to Barack Obama, is it still okay to use the lower case "h"?)
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To: marktwain

I wonder if they sell shooting glasses.


11 posted on 08/17/2014 7:30:49 AM PDT by CrazyIvan (I lost my phased plasma rifle in a tragic hovercraft accident.)
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree

“I’m too busy looking through the coin return slots on pay phones. “

I don’t think I’ve seen a pay phone in 10 years. At one point I worked for Elcotel, the world’s third largest private pay phone company. As a store owner you could get part of the take on these phones. Lots of ordinary people bought them and made deals with 7/11. Poor neighborhoods were the best pay-phone sites. The cops tried on many occasions to have them removed as they said drug dealers used them. But now, the government is giving away phones for free. Another business completely wiped out by the government freebies.


12 posted on 08/17/2014 7:31:51 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Klemper

13 posted on 08/17/2014 7:36:31 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: Klemper

I wear tinted safety goggles from Sam’s Club. They’re in the optics department. They cost a bit over $2.00 each (in 6-packs), are comfortable, scratch-resistant, and totally block out the sun (unlike $2,000 bling). I have a lot of them (lifetime supply) and have no regrets buying them.


14 posted on 08/17/2014 7:37:07 AM PDT by BobL
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To: Gen.Blather

“I can’t even imagine wanting a $2k pair of glasses, a $200k car or a $3million dollar house. My mother once told me (in the ‘60’s) we can afford a Cadillac but we buy Oldsmobile’s.”

My wife has a tough time with that too. She wants a Mercedes or BMW (and yes, affording them is not a problem), but we stick to Toyotas and Hondas. So far my excuse is that the Japanese cars are more reliable - and that seems to be working (and, of course, is true).


15 posted on 08/17/2014 7:40:07 AM PDT by BobL
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To: marktwain
(b) A person that does not prohibit an individual from carrying a concealed weapon on property that the person owns or occupies is immune from any liability arising from its decision

Interesting. So if the business allows CCW, they are immune from lawsuit. If they bar CCW, and a customer or employee carries anyway, and shoots a robber, the business is NOT immune.

16 posted on 08/17/2014 7:45:50 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Gen.Blather

“I pick up every penny I see.”

Actually, I made the calculation and determined it’s a losing battle. My back (or knees) will buckle from that long before the pennies amount to real money.

Much better options out there, like learning to do your own wiring, plumbing, ac repairs, car repairs, etc. Keeping “the man” almost totally out of my life has been one of my proudest accomplishments.

Lots of other things too, Netflix instead of cable/satellite, burners instead of I-phones, $3 wine...list is endless.


17 posted on 08/17/2014 7:47:08 AM PDT by BobL
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To: PapaBear3625

“Interesting. So if the business allows CCW, they are immune from lawsuit. If they bar CCW, and a customer or employee carries anyway, and shoots a robber, the business is NOT immune.”

I caught that too. It’s ingenious. Tell your employees to keep their piece at home, risk a crippling lawsuit.


18 posted on 08/17/2014 7:49:43 AM PDT by BobL
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To: Fightin Whitey

Moe Green’s glasses ?


19 posted on 08/17/2014 7:52:57 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

LOL!


20 posted on 08/17/2014 7:58:00 AM PDT by rabidralph
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