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“Grid Jihad”: What If You Had a Week to Prep for the End of the World?
SHTF Plan ^ | 9/4/14 | Daisy Luther

Posted on 09/04/2014 6:21:37 PM PDT by Kartographer

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To: Travis McGee

I don’t think you can make one blanket statement. There are huge differences between the cities and major urban areas. It also depends on what happens, EMP vs ebola vs economic meltdown.

Here in Tampa I’m sure fishing will become popular and robbing successful fishermen will also become popular. In NYC there isn’t much chance of finding food but whatever govt is in place will certainly focus on the major cities like NYC, Chicago or Washington. In the North East the die off may be 90% but in Nashville it may only be 50%.


181 posted on 09/05/2014 5:46:18 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Travis McGee

I once heard when I was a kid that America works because we all want peace, that cops only exist to take care of the very few bad guys, but if we all went nuts there is nothing anyone could do. A few bad guys leveraging that fact are able to do serious damage.


182 posted on 09/05/2014 6:28:26 AM PDT by CodeToad (Romney is a raisin cookie looking for chocolate chip cookie votes.)
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To: IYAS9YAS

No brand names needed. A few minutes research and you will find the market is constantly moving and the names change.

The one brand name I do like is Trojan Batteries.

As far as panels or charge controllers, even Harbor Freight sells Packages that have all the parts.


183 posted on 09/05/2014 6:31:41 AM PDT by CodeToad (Romney is a raisin cookie looking for chocolate chip cookie votes.)
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To: PA Engineer

“Clean” water, absolutely. Dirty water will no doubt be consumed and disease will set in. In my area Giardia will do in many people that drink dirty water.


184 posted on 09/05/2014 6:35:00 AM PDT by CodeToad (Romney is a raisin cookie looking for chocolate chip cookie votes.)
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To: Travis McGee

“...cities that need to import thousands of truckloads of food every single day to sustain life.”

Denver metro has about 3 million people. It takes about 450 tons of food daily to feed them just one meal consisting of 1/3 pound of food.

450 tons...daily. That’s a lot of logistics. Cities won’t make it if the supply lines are out.


185 posted on 09/05/2014 6:39:46 AM PDT by CodeToad (Romney is a raisin cookie looking for chocolate chip cookie votes.)
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To: CodeToad
No brand names needed. A few minutes research and you will find the market is constantly moving and the names change.

Was searching last night. Lots of stuff, but not a lot of reliability ratings on what I found, just a lot of folks willing to sell you everything. I'll have to refine my search. I'll look into the batteries. Thanks!

186 posted on 09/05/2014 6:47:55 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Gotta get me one of those. AAC model.
Was about to, but then a newly-released factory-threaded-barrel Glock 19 distracted my wallet.


187 posted on 09/05/2014 6:48:34 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Solve problems, don't bitch about them.)
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To: IYAS9YAS

I would start with reading about solar panels and the types being sold. Not difficult but something necessary to ensure you don’t buy junk.


188 posted on 09/05/2014 6:50:18 AM PDT by CodeToad (Romney is a raisin cookie looking for chocolate chip cookie votes.)
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To: JRandomFreeper; Travis McGee
I don't buy your 90% die off.

Neither do I.

It'll be 100%.

189 posted on 09/05/2014 6:50:35 AM PDT by Lazamataz (First we beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them.)
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To: Kartographer

I am so screwed.


190 posted on 09/05/2014 6:53:11 AM PDT by Lazamataz (First we beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them.)
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To: Kartographer

BBL...


191 posted on 09/05/2014 6:59:55 AM PDT by Carriage Hill ( Some days you're the windshield, and some days you're the bug.)
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To: P.O.E.; JRandomFreeper

Very good pamphlet!

If you don’t want to build it yourself, you can even buy one. Kind of pricey, but if you buy it on credit and get it delivered RIGHT before the SHTF, you can consider it free!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HYDROGEN-GASIFICATION-GENERATOR-WOOD-BIOMASS-GASIFIER-/250850657352


192 posted on 09/05/2014 7:04:34 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: JRandomFreeper; appalachian_dweller
You disagree that ancient Rome had over a million useless eaters, utterly dependent on government handouts? Ok... but that's not how history shows it

And rome threw Christians to the lions too to keep the human eater entertained

And of course we all know how well the roman empire finally turned out - once the ability to support consumers over producers fizzled out.

193 posted on 09/05/2014 7:55:28 AM PDT by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: SisterK

I’m at 425 ft. I need to figure out a way to get water from it without a generator.

I wish my property had a spring.


194 posted on 09/05/2014 7:56:15 AM PDT by roofgoat
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To: Alas Babylon!

a more practical item would be sewage/human waste gasification systems - adapted from manure gasification systems.


195 posted on 09/05/2014 7:57:35 AM PDT by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: outofsalt; Kartographer

Me too! Kart. I appreciate it ALL!


196 posted on 09/05/2014 8:10:33 AM PDT by 3D-JOY
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To: Mortrey; Shadowstrike

Well said, I would like to add my praise for you acts of kindness.


197 posted on 09/05/2014 8:13:45 AM PDT by 3D-JOY
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To: Travis McGee

PLEASE keep writing!


198 posted on 09/05/2014 8:40:29 AM PDT by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

As painfully detailed in _One_Second_After_, we keep overlooking how large a percentage of our population is alive ONLY because of medical maintenance. Lack of insulin & blood thinners alone will knock off a LOT of people in one month flat. Many more will expire from many other ailments which are easy, even trivial, to correct IF the lights are on and trucks are moving.

As for “mothers will work the system that is left to make sure the people that know how stuff works will do what is required”: you can’t make gardens grow overnight no matter how hungry the kids are, and you can’t make gasoline when it’s deep in a hole in Iraq. The cooperative & motivated will indeed work with those who know how stuff works, but if they don’t have the stuff they need to work with they can’t make it work. Grocery stores have about 3 days food supply on hand at any given time. Most people’s pantries won’t last a week. Freezer contents will rot within days unless it’s winter and you’re in a northern state. Most water is pumped for delivery. We’re where we are BECAUSE “people that know how stuff works do what is required”, and it took upwards of a century to put required working stuff in place.

We’re a society built on a “just in time” supply chain that stretches around the world and delivers in days (if not minutes). Few people will even know how to build a sensible cooking fire, and not melt the handle off the frying pan first time they try - because of so much reliance on that electricity-and-gas powered supply chain.


199 posted on 09/05/2014 9:13:48 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Solve problems, don't bitch about them.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

it is over..

We’ve lost our Country to the Progressives!!! Over! They have about enough illegals to vote Demorats forever!!!


200 posted on 09/05/2014 9:18:12 AM PDT by tallyhoe
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