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Florida looks to Expand Legal Hunting with Gun Mufflers
Gun Watch ^ | 15 September, 2014 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 09/16/2014 4:46:41 AM PDT by marktwain


While the United States leads the world in most ways, it has lagged in the adoption of mufflers for guns.   In most of Europe, mufflers on guns are not controversial.   In Finland, ownership, manufacture, sale, distribution, and use of gun mufflers is a constitutional right.   On most of the continent, gun mufflers are easier to acquire than firearms; their use is considered good manners.

Not so in the United States.   Due to a weird quirk in firearms law passed during the Roosevelt administration, gun mufflers require a $200 dollar tax to be paid to the federal government.  Processing of the tax form runs to several months.   When the law was passed, the tax was equivalent to $4,000 dollars today.   This "tax" was on a device that normally cost $10.   Today such devices can be had for $50 in Finland.   No reason was given for the virtual ban on the mufflers.

Now that inflation has reduced value of the tax to "only" one half  to four times the cost of the device, there has been a resurgence in the use of gun mufflers.  States are seeing the advantages of reducing ear damage and the irritation of neighbors.   Most states now allow the mufflers to be used for hunting.

Florida already allows gun mufflers to be used on private property with rifles and pistols, and for hunting with shotguns.   From jacksonville.com:

TALLAHASSEE | Hunting game in Florida could become less noisy by the end of the year.

The Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission advanced a proposal Wednesday to remove a prohibition on the use of noise-suppressors, or silencers, with rifles and pistols when hunting deer, gray squirrels, rabbits, wild turkeys, quail and crows.

The proposal will now be advertised in the Florida Administrative Register, and the commission is expected to vote on the new rule in November.
Florida is likely to join the other states in allowing the devices to be used for most hunting.   It is hard to argue against it when bows and crossbows are legal.

©2014 by Dean Weingarten: Permission to share is granted when this notice is included.
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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Outdoors; Politics
KEYWORDS: banglist; fl; silencer; suppressor
The virtual ban on gun mufflers has been a public health disaster. Millions, perhaps 10s of millions have lost substantial hearing as a result of this insane law.
1 posted on 09/16/2014 4:46:42 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Here is the link to the quoted article:

http://members.jacksonville.com/news/florida/2014-09-10/story/state-suggests-allowing-firearm-silencers-florida-hunting


2 posted on 09/16/2014 4:59:44 AM PDT by marktwain (The old media must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: marktwain

It is an insane law.


3 posted on 09/16/2014 5:02:50 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: marktwain

Just paid a little under $5,000 for hearing aids. Most probable cause is shooting, much of it with the M-14 during service. Military did not offer hearing protection until 1980’s, so many of us with service will face this problem. Nice to note that neither Medicare nor my supplemental insurance paid anything towards them.


4 posted on 09/16/2014 5:13:27 AM PDT by Boomer One
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To: marktwain

WHAT DID YOU SAY?


5 posted on 09/16/2014 5:15:53 AM PDT by CrazyIvan (I lost my phased plasma rifle in a tragic hovercraft accident.)
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To: marktwain

I can’t envision CA and certain other states ever rolling over for this. This would be something congress could help with.


6 posted on 09/16/2014 5:16:37 AM PDT by umgud (I couldn't understand why the ball kept getting bigger......... then it hit me.)
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To: umgud
First we repeal the NFA of 1932, or start with the parts involving gun mufflers and short barreled rifles and shotguns, which make absolutely no sense whatsoever.

Then we could work on bans of gun mufflers as a clear infringment of the second amendment.

7 posted on 09/16/2014 5:38:19 AM PDT by marktwain (The old media must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: marktwain
It's interesting that they call them "mufflers." Popular media refers to them as "silencers." Yet in Europe they call their motor vehicle mufflers, "silencers." And we call them "mufflers."

And yes, I'm aware the "silencer" on a gun is actually a "suppressor."

But, I was unaware that suppressors for shotguns were available. How does the added weight and length impact the swing and motion such as in dove hunting?

8 posted on 09/16/2014 5:48:55 AM PDT by LouAvul (If government is the answer, you're asking the wrong question.)
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To: LouAvul

I wonder how it works with shot trying to go in all directions through the suppressor. I can understand a single bullet from a rifled barrel will go straight through but it seems that shot would damage the internals, as the pattern tries to spread.


9 posted on 09/16/2014 6:42:44 AM PDT by jstaff
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To: jstaff
The shot is contained within a cup in the shotgun shell. Instead of wide-open baffles, a shotgun suppressor has a smooth tube keeping the cup intact, with lots of tapered holes for bleeding propellant gasses off before the cup exits.


10 posted on 09/16/2014 7:01:49 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Solve problems, don't bitch about them.)
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To: samtheman

The NFA needs to be repealed in whole and the ATF disbanded.


11 posted on 09/16/2014 7:31:48 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: Durus

The author failed to learn in elementary school that ‘$’ means the same thing as the word ‘dollars.’

He did it twice, so it’s not a random brain outage.

I can’t take seriously anything someone says after that.


12 posted on 09/16/2014 8:36:02 AM PDT by FirstFlaBn
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To: marktwain
The photo above excites me.

Why?

Because the "muffler" or can is not centered on the bore; it is a little lower, I assume to accomodate the scope.

I have a GAMO Whisper Cat .177 air rifle that I use in my back yard for vermin, but the report is so loud it limits it's use.

I was searching for a solution, but all cans block my scope. This photo is a game changer for me. I did not know they made them like that.

13 posted on 09/16/2014 8:38:03 AM PDT by T-Bone Texan (The time is now to form up into leaderless cells of 5 men or less.)
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To: LouAvul
"...It's interesting that they call them "mufflers." Popular media refers to them as "silencers." Yet in Europe they call their motor vehicle mufflers, "silencers." And we call them "mufflers."

And yes, I'm aware the "silencer" on a gun is actually a "suppressor."

Why do we drive on the parkway, but park on the driveway? - G. Carlin

14 posted on 09/16/2014 8:39:40 AM PDT by T-Bone Texan (The time is now to form up into leaderless cells of 5 men or less.)
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To: marktwain; All

https://www.youtube.com/user/silencerco?src_vid=-cz8uZWtt3Q&feature=iv&annotation_id=annotation_9631


15 posted on 09/16/2014 10:09:22 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

I had not watched silencerco’s promotional video. Well worth it.


16 posted on 09/16/2014 10:47:35 AM PDT by marktwain (The old media must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: ctdonath2

Well, I’ll be. I need to apologize to all those people watching “No Country For Old Men” when I hollered, “There’s no such thing as a suppressor for a shotgun!”


17 posted on 09/16/2014 12:41:14 PM PDT by LouAvul (If government is the answer, you're asking the wrong question.)
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To: ctdonath2

Thanks for the update, I did not know that.


18 posted on 09/16/2014 1:16:49 PM PDT by jstaff
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