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Scam Alert: Hospitals All Over America Are Wildly Inflating Medical Bills
TEC ^ | 09/20/2014 | Michael Snyder

Posted on 09/21/2014 7:24:21 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

Somebody has to pay for the importation of pregnant Mexicans.


41 posted on 09/21/2014 8:16:02 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: blackdog

Mitch McConnell might even co-sponsor that


42 posted on 09/21/2014 8:18:18 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: SeekAndFind

I agree that hospitals are recovering for underpayment from the government, but “tens of thousands of dollars for a non-surgical hospital visit” seems to be an exaggeration or a flat out lie, I would lover to see the invoices for this claim.


43 posted on 09/21/2014 8:25:30 PM PDT by dila813
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To: SeekAndFind

Somebody has to pay for all the indigents that show up at the emergency room.


44 posted on 09/21/2014 8:26:37 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: tbw2

Back in 1989 I had a college professor who was in a horrendous accident and nearly died from 3rd degree burns over 40% of his body. He told us the story of Dawn dishsoap. The hospital had to clean his wounds twice a day with Dawn. His wife found out that they were charging more than $200 per bottle and were opening a new bottle each time the cleaned him. She went to the store and bought a case for (at the time) 50 cents each and had them use that.

Three years later I was in the hospital with my c-section. They took my temperature with each meal. A new thermometer would be used and they’d throw it out with each meal. This happened three times a day.

I found out that they were charging $600 PER THERMOMETER. My mother went to the store and bought me my own for a dollar. We used that once I protested.

Over the years, I’ve called the insurance company to complain about over charges like this and they just do not CARE.

They’ve been doing this for decades. It’s the system and nobody gives a crap.

This has nothing to do with illegals. This is about insurance companies.


45 posted on 09/21/2014 8:42:14 PM PDT by Marie (When are they going to take back Obama's peace prize?)
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To: Slyfox

My husband just had a 5 hour stay in a day surgery unit for a hernia repair. The bill was $25,000. The insurance paid $3,000. Our cost was $50.00.


46 posted on 09/21/2014 8:43:48 PM PDT by Cry if I Wanna
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To: SeekAndFind
“But this was just so wrong — I had no choice and no negotiating power.”

....just like dealing with the government.

47 posted on 09/21/2014 8:46:01 PM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: ClearCase_guy

Of course! That way they can just have the Federal Reserve print the money to pay for it all!


48 posted on 09/21/2014 8:47:49 PM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: SeekAndFind

Hospitals have for years submitted inflated bills for services rendered and then settled for significantly smaller payments for third party payers, who often reimburse below the actual cost to the hospital - Medicare for example on average pays at only 80% of the cost of the services given - the hospitals bill more because it gives them the opportunity to charge higher rates to those actually paying out-of-pocket to make up some of what they don’t get from other payers......


49 posted on 09/21/2014 8:56:19 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: SeekAndFind

Of course the price is inflated, who do you think is really paying for all those ER visits and all those illegals and people who will never pay their bill?


50 posted on 09/21/2014 8:59:16 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: blackdog
#6)Only drink wine or beer with family meals, and children should be included in this rule.

No one here would dream of drinking any alcohol of any kind with a family meal.

51 posted on 09/21/2014 9:00:42 PM PDT by steve86 ( Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: blackdog

#6 - ridiculous


52 posted on 09/21/2014 9:03:58 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Cry if I Wanna

My hubby recently had whatever the procedure is called where they go through the penis to look at everything. It was a 3 hr thing in a small surgery center. They billed insurance $35000! I don’t remember what ins paid but it wasn’t much. Lol


53 posted on 09/21/2014 9:04:04 PM PDT by sheana
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To: sheana

I would rather die on the spot than be subject to that and I mean it!


54 posted on 09/21/2014 9:06:33 PM PDT by steve86 ( Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: cherry
I had a kidney/liver transplant and keeping up with examining the bills is a never-ending task. Been almost a year and 1/2, and stuff is still winding through the endless recoding of charges, etc. I will say, however, that for most of my bills, the Dr./Hospital gets relatively little from what is originally billed.

I study each EOB that comes in, and after all the adjustments, the amount paid by insurance is a far cry from the original billing. And because I have primary and secondary insurance, I often owe nothing. Don't get me wrong, I am equally horrified by the charges I've seen, thousands for a medication, etc. But my coverage has been a life saver, and it is NOT Obamacare. I used to audit hospital bills for a living many years back, so I know the drill. Today, so many people are forced onto plans with super high deductibles and exclusions, and the costs to the patient are enormous.

55 posted on 09/21/2014 9:08:14 PM PDT by Mjaye
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To: sheana

Probably a cystoscopy, yikes!


56 posted on 09/21/2014 9:09:17 PM PDT by Mjaye
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To: SeekAndFind

Years ago the legendary Andy Grove wrote an oped that got to the root of this issue. He wanted someone to compile the cost of every procedure across each hospital in the country to see how much the cost for the same procedure varied wildly across the country. He argued for a system similar to cars: the manufacturer discloses an invoice price for each car sold and the final price is a percentage above that taking into account the cost of doing business in a particular area and dealer’s profit. If done right we would have a base price plus a few percentage point increase/decrease over it for every procedure. A base price brings a tremendous amount of transparency and cuts to the root of ridiculous prices charged for small items. As with anything where the public could benefit, it never saw the light of day.


57 posted on 09/21/2014 9:09:28 PM PDT by raj bhatia
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To: tbw2

And government regulations. And most of this “$30 for an aspirin” crap is just that.

Since most of the coverage is now through government (health insurance should be as easy to get as car insurance. Or in reverse, think of how messed up car insurance would be in it was like health insurance) they pad the bills that then get whittled down by the insurance companies and even Medicare/Medicaid.

It’s not a scam, it’s free people always figuring out a way around stupid government policies created by the masterminds.


58 posted on 09/21/2014 9:13:54 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Conservatives are all that's left to defend the Constitution. Dems hate it, and Repubs don't care.)
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To: steve86

He was out and couldn’t feel a thing. Lol


59 posted on 09/21/2014 9:15:13 PM PDT by sheana
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To: GeronL

No alchoholics in our family.


60 posted on 09/21/2014 9:18:14 PM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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