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Warning: Avoid this corrupt, third-world country at all costs
The Sovereign Man ^ | 11/1/2014 | Simon Black

Posted on 11/01/2014 6:21:34 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: bigdaddy45; Tea Party Terrorist

See my latest post


41 posted on 11/01/2014 7:15:10 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2001)
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To: WildHighlander57

I’ve seen so much abuse of that rhetoric.

This guy might not even be one of them; but they are using him as a news pigeon.


42 posted on 11/01/2014 7:16:14 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Sovereign citizen groups using the guy as a News pigeon....

BINGO!!

Many thanks for nailing it!


43 posted on 11/01/2014 7:18:22 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2001)
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To: BlueNgold
It should also be noted that drug dogs did alert, although no drugs were found.

Means nothing. Drug dogs are trained to alert upon cue from their handlers, so as to provide "probable cause."

44 posted on 11/01/2014 7:19:33 PM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (It's time to Repeal and Replace the Republican Party)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

If somebody cared, the FBI could probably attack such practices. Won’t happen under Obama however. Maybe under a libertarian executive.


45 posted on 11/01/2014 7:24:46 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Yashcheritsiy
Exactly. The officer scratches his left ear, Sparky makes the sign for "Drugs".

"Oops. I have to search your car. I can get a warrant you know. My dog is never wrong ..."

46 posted on 11/01/2014 7:38:16 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Democrats have a lynch mob mentality. They always have.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I agree they should be given but we just don’t know do we. As to marked bills its not what one thinks about when getting into the car.


47 posted on 11/01/2014 7:40:13 PM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: wiggen

A few dozen thousand, then one might prudently take precautions. Police are not the only people who could steal, after all.


48 posted on 11/01/2014 7:42:09 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: WildHighlander57
"Well said!

I saw that source “sovereign man” and thought of those “sovereign citizens groups....

Axe to grind indeed...

Did that guy have any licence plates?

WHY was he pulled over in the first place?
"


"...failing to signal promptly when changing lanes" (Doug Book, editor, following story, Coach is Right).

How Police have confiscated billions from law abiding Americans
http://www.coachisright.com/tag/john-anderson/

Stop and seize: Aggressive police take hundreds of millions of dollars from motorists not charged with crimes
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/investigative/2014/09/06/stop-and-seize/

Cops Can Confiscate Money And Property From Law Abiding Citizens
http://jalopnik.com/5913416/cops-can-confiscate-money-and-property-from-law-abiding-citizens


49 posted on 11/01/2014 7:43:06 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The “progressives” of all parties do not believe in freedom.


50 posted on 11/01/2014 7:43:34 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: SeekAndFind

there are fewer places offshore that are safe for the little guy.


51 posted on 11/01/2014 7:53:29 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2 (civil law: commanding what is right and prohibiting what is wrong Blackstone Commentaries I p44)
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To: familyop

Sometimes investigators don’t WANT action because that would obviate their purpose.


52 posted on 11/01/2014 8:00:50 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“There are so many great, safe jurisdictions in the world to bank, to invest, to own property, and to store assets. And you can set all of this up without leaving town.”

OK. So in this case the guy had $25 in cash. Now tell me how he could have got $25k in cash out of the country w/o taking some enormous risks? It is still legal to take out more tan $25k, but it must be declared and this will be reported to every f-—ing Fed Gestapo agency.

Same goes for physical PMs and anything else conspicuous. Send out digital financial instruments and you have the same problem. Is this guy some kind of coyote?


53 posted on 11/01/2014 8:03:51 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est. President zero gave us patient zero.)
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To: FreedomStar3028

once an unmarked tow truck showed up to two my MG that wasn’t running from the street in front of my house. I called the cops and they said it was a city truck. I then called the state police. The sgt of the precinct was at my house in minutes. they towed the MG but i followed them to the junk yard and quickly called a friend to tow the mg to a guy who eventually restored and customized the car for me.


54 posted on 11/01/2014 8:04:05 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2 (civil law: commanding what is right and prohibiting what is wrong Blackstone Commentaries I p44)
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To: SeekAndFind
In '99 the Kansas City Star ran a series of investigative reports in asset seizure that was simply startling. Supposedly the series prompted congressional investigations which resulted in 'fixes'.

Last year the Star revisited the issue in 12 states, and found the problem as bad, if not worse than before, in every state.

55 posted on 11/01/2014 8:09:19 PM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: Tea Party Terrorist

And until they are found guilty to the exclusion of a reasonable doubt of a crime, they are to be considered innocent.


56 posted on 11/01/2014 8:26:20 PM PDT by sport
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To: WildHighlander57

He doesn’t. It is for the State to prove that he is in possession of it illegally.


57 posted on 11/01/2014 8:29:07 PM PDT by sport
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To: WildHighlander57

He shouldn’t need a “reason” to carry his own money, but he is a dumb-arse for not hiding it better!


58 posted on 11/01/2014 8:32:07 PM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: BlueNgold

Those “drug dogs” are trained to “alert” on cue. I used to believe that crap that they could sniff out drugs. Then again, at one time, I believed that the cops were honest. But I was brought back to reality.


59 posted on 11/01/2014 8:35:02 PM PDT by sport
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To: sport

I’m not a dog handler, but I’ve worked with a couple different types of working dogs. I will politely disagree with the inference that all working.g dogs are fakes and only alert on command in order to provide their handlers fake PC.

Not all cops are crooks, despite what some may think. I might agree that for too many are corrupt, but I don’t think I would agree that it’s a majority of them. I still think most cops are good people with positive intentions. This is based on my personal experience and exposure, since I clearly haven’t met or worked with enough cops to say I can speak to the whole of the family race nationwide...

The point of my post was to link a better article on the primary case being discussed. The original article lacked both context and objectivity.

If I were king for the day... It would become the policy of the government that any and all assets seized or frozen would be held in escrow until such time as a criminal or civil judgment was issued. Due process, especially as it relates to asset seizures, has been abused and twisted to the point one sometimes wonders if the 4th and 5th amendments are still on the books.


60 posted on 11/01/2014 8:54:07 PM PDT by BlueNgold (Have we crossed the line from Govt. in righteous fear of the People - to a People in fear of Govt??)
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