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Cowardly conservatives using Garner case to grab their “Ferguson Moment”
Coach is Right ^ | 12/8/14 | Kevin "Coach" Collins

Posted on 12/08/2014 8:49:15 AM PST by Oldpuppymax

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To: bdog2995

Actually, I really apologize for my last comment. It was unwarranted, especially when I just recently tried to give a correction on another thread in much the same manner.

There isn’t an excuse for my comment and I am sorry.


41 posted on 12/08/2014 10:30:29 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Crazieman
Blogpimp ping!

In the spirit of the season you should change you username to Grover Dill.

42 posted on 12/08/2014 10:30:34 AM PST by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: Yashcheritsiy
Eric Garner was killed because he was threatening NYC’s steady flow of tax revenue.

Garner was soliciting cigs outside of a mom and pop, plays-by-the rules, small grocery store. It was the merchants who were complaining about Garner.

The man was killed over a small amount of tax monies.

Sure. And Brown in Ferguson was killed for walking in the middle of the road.

Your comment is absurd.

43 posted on 12/08/2014 10:30:55 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: Oldpuppymax

The guy had a huge arrest record, and he resisted arrest. He unfortunately was in poor health.

And there’s no evidence that the alleged “chokehold” in any way caused his death.

Some have mentioned that the crime was negligable, selling individual cigarettes, and the democrat run governments greed for taxes, but that doesn’t erase the facts above.

IMO some conservatives are trying to appease the racebaiters on this one. No good will come of it.


44 posted on 12/08/2014 10:31:26 AM PST by Cubs Fan (The ferguson rioters, looters and arsonists are DOMESTIC LEFT WING TERRORISTS)
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To: FreeReign
Your comment is absurd.

No, your willingness to shill for the police state is absurd.

45 posted on 12/08/2014 10:35:52 AM PST by Yashcheritsiy (It's time to repeal and replace the GOP)
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To: Altura Ct.
Way too many on the right run around in circles about race.

Yep there's definitely some here falling all over themselves to appease Al and Jesse and the rest of the racebaiters. Shameful.

Garner wasn't as bad as brown, but he was a habitual criminal, out on bond and doing something illegal. It's not the police's fault he chose to resist arrest and was in poor health.

46 posted on 12/08/2014 10:39:35 AM PST by Cubs Fan (The ferguson rioters, looters and arsonists are DOMESTIC LEFT WING TERRORISTS)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

Your response is empty. You can’t deal with what I said so you say nothing.


47 posted on 12/08/2014 10:39:39 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: Yashcheritsiy
No, your willingness to shill for the police state is absurd.

So what do you think the grand jury should have done?

48 posted on 12/08/2014 10:40:48 AM PST by Cubs Fan (The ferguson rioters, looters and arsonists are DOMESTIC LEFT WING TERRORISTS)
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To: FreeReign

A good number of those arrests were for selling cigarettes. This is just like the government burning down the Branch Davidian house in Waco. No need to force the issue at that time. It was a dumb escalation over cigarettes. Just dumb.

See http://www.silive.com/northshore/index.ssf/2014/07/eric_garner_who_died_in_police.html

“At the time of his death, the Port Richmond resident had three misdemeanor cases pending in Stapleton Criminal Court. He was free on $2,000 bail.

On Aug. 22 of last year, Garner was arrested on School Road and Bay Street, Fort Wadsworth, for allegedly driving without a license, according to a criminal complaint.

Garner, 43, gave cops a phony name and put himself in more hot water when officers allegedly found untaxed cigarettes and a small amount of marijuana in the 1998 Lincoln Navigator he was driving, the complaint said.

He was charged with aggravated unlicensed vehicle operation, false personation, possession or sale of untaxed cigarettes and marijuana possession, according to information from District Attorney Daniel Donovan’s office.

Seven months later, while out on $1,000 bail, Garner was busted on March 28 for allegedly selling unstamped cigarettes on the street outside of 200 Bay St., Tompkinsville. He had 24 packs of untaxed smokes in his possession, police said.

The location is next door to 202 Bay St., where the fatal confrontation occurred Thursday between cops and Garner.

Garner was charged with a misdemeanor count of violating the cigarette and tobacco products tax and posted $1,000 bail, online state court records show.

Garner was arrested again on May 7 on Victory Boulevard and St. Marks Place, Tompkinsville. The site is across the block from Bay Street.

Cops accused him of possessing six packs of untaxed cigarettes.

Garner last appeared in court to answer the three cases on July 2. The matters were all adjourned then to Oct. 7, online state court records show.”


49 posted on 12/08/2014 10:42:17 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

So the grand jury should have convicted the cop of murder because_______????????


50 posted on 12/08/2014 10:46:14 AM PST by Cubs Fan (The ferguson rioters, looters and arsonists are DOMESTIC LEFT WING TERRORISTS)
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To: Gaffer

So the grand jury should have convicted the cop of murder because_______????????


51 posted on 12/08/2014 10:46:33 AM PST by Cubs Fan (The ferguson rioters, looters and arsonists are DOMESTIC LEFT WING TERRORISTS)
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To: Minsc

So the grand jury should have convicted the cop of murder because_______????????


52 posted on 12/08/2014 10:47:38 AM PST by Cubs Fan (The ferguson rioters, looters and arsonists are DOMESTIC LEFT WING TERRORISTS)
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To: xzins

So the grand jury should have convicted the cop of murder because_______????????


53 posted on 12/08/2014 10:48:06 AM PST by Cubs Fan (The ferguson rioters, looters and arsonists are DOMESTIC LEFT WING TERRORISTS)
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To: everyone

Complain all you want about taxes and liberals creating a black market. Absolutely right.

But that doesn’t mean the cop murdered Garner. There is NO evidence that the alleged “chokehold” (which isn’t even banned) caused Garner’s death. That’s what a grand jury decided based on facts and evidence.

stop appeasing the racebaiters.


54 posted on 12/08/2014 10:53:16 AM PST by Cubs Fan (The ferguson rioters, looters and arsonists are DOMESTIC LEFT WING TERRORISTS)
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To: Cubs Fan

Where did I say that???

I’m saying it’s really lousy police work and that the man didn’t have to die over silly cigarettes.

Fox was saying yesterday morning that a federal deprivation of civil rights case can use ‘death’ as proof that civil rights were violated. What they can’t prove is intent.

So, it gets to a civil suit. Can the family win a case claiming lousy police work? I’d give them a decent shot at a victory on that one.


55 posted on 12/08/2014 11:06:46 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Cubs Fan

I didn’t say that.


56 posted on 12/08/2014 11:16:19 AM PST by Minsc
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To: Oldpuppymax

Coach is right.

The Ferguson incident really shut down the “All Cops are Scum” crowd here at FR. At least temporarily.

Now that Garner has been “Murdered by a JBT”; we see them crawling out of their mom’s basement to speak their losertarian rhetoric all over the place again.


57 posted on 12/08/2014 11:33:13 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Steve_Seattle

From my observation, the Garner case is a case of gov’t corruption.

As for Ferguson, the cop shop a 300# thug that had already attacked him and was running at him to finish the job.


58 posted on 12/08/2014 11:35:36 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Yashcheritsiy
No, your willingness to shill for the police state is absurd.

How can it be a "Police State" when these are local police we're talking about?

59 posted on 12/08/2014 11:36:17 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Cubs Fan

Read back. I never said such. Show me


60 posted on 12/08/2014 11:38:03 AM PST by Gaffer
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