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Soaring Overdose Deaths, and the Failed ‘War on Drugs’
https://www.thetrumpet.com/article/12293.19.0.0/society/soaring-overdose-deaths-and-the-failed-war-on-drugs ^ | 12-18-2014

Posted on 12/18/2014 12:53:01 PM PST by Thistooshallpass9

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To: ConservingFreedom

That is true to a point. But nobody has one beer and is instantly an alcholic, but I believe it can only takes one encounter with crack or meth or heroin to be hooked, and have to have another.

The addictive qualities of different substances, vary in intensity. Regardless and independent of whatever anyone explains that supports or rejects it.


101 posted on 12/19/2014 3:09:44 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Thistooshallpass9

Sounds like a good result to me, fewer prisons to build.

Hope every user croaks.


102 posted on 12/19/2014 3:13:09 PM PST by dalereed
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To: tacticalogic

Guns and drugs are two separate issues and there is no way to glue recreational drug use and the death and employment of drug cartels and a gun.


103 posted on 12/20/2014 9:13:10 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: WayneS

Or Prohibition had on alcohol use.


104 posted on 12/20/2014 9:13:56 AM PST by Kackikat ('If it walks like a traitor, acts like a traitor, then by God it's a traitor.')
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To: ConservingFreedom

Only excerpts allowed on Fr due to copyright issues.


105 posted on 12/20/2014 9:15:19 AM PST by Kackikat ('If it walks like a traitor, acts like a traitor, then by God it's a traitor.')
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To: A CA Guy
Guns and drugs are two separate issues and there is no way to glue recreational drug use and the death and employment of drug cartels and a gun.

The federal government claims exactly the same fraudulent Constitutional authority to regulate both.

106 posted on 12/20/2014 11:02:58 AM PST by tacticalogic
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To: A CA Guy
Guns and drugs are two separate issues and there is no way to glue recreational drug use and the death and employment of drug cartels and a gun.

Explain how the DEA became a willing participant in Fast and Furious.

107 posted on 12/20/2014 11:07:14 AM PST by tacticalogic
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To: Responsibility2nd
Illegal drugs are bad? Oh-kay then. Make ‘em legal.

That illegal drugs are bad, is merely your subjective opinion, not fact. If they were legal, they would be no different than alcohol.

108 posted on 12/20/2014 11:14:48 AM PST by southern rock
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To: ConservingFreedom; A CA Guy; PieterCasparzen

Decriminalizing illicit behavior doesn’t change the problem.

If anything, it encourages corruption.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3062760/posts


109 posted on 12/20/2014 11:21:19 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Kackikat

“Only excerpts allowed on Fr due to copyright issues.”

Wrong - I just posted an entire article from that site: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3239419/posts


110 posted on 12/20/2014 7:28:22 PM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: ConservingFreedom

MAYBE YOU SHOULD CHECK THE HOMEPAGE AND THE RULES:

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111 posted on 12/20/2014 7:47:36 PM PST by Kackikat ('If it talks like a traitor, acts like a traitor, then by God it's a traitor.')
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To: Kackikat
Click here for the latest list of copyright requests.

The Trumpet is not on that list. You're still wrong.

112 posted on 12/21/2014 9:10:23 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: ConservingFreedom

Did you even read the rule by Jim Robinson, NO full articles, only excerpts. Ask him, don’t bother me. I gave you what was on HOME page.


113 posted on 12/21/2014 9:15:38 AM PST by Kackikat ('If it talks like a traitor, acts like a traitor, then by God it's a traitor.')
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To: Kackikat
Did you even read the rule by Jim Robinson, NO full articles, only excerpts.

That's not what it says - read the whole thing.

114 posted on 12/21/2014 11:03:15 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: Cvengr

BS, that why it would be good to drive any direction you want on the highway including against traffic.

Recreation drug use is death to both America and Mexico.


115 posted on 12/21/2014 12:37:15 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

By your definition, then, nicotine is a “hard” drug?


116 posted on 12/22/2014 4:23:48 AM PST by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: WayneS

Believe whatever you want ot believe if it makes it easier not to like my position. If you want to believe something I never said, go for it. It’s all on you.


117 posted on 12/22/2014 11:33:15 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
My comments have nothing to do with "belief", although it is clear that yours do.

You wrote: There are no people that take crack, heroin or meth that can control their drug use. They all turn into addicts from these drugs. Everyone who takes them says it only took one time to get hooked, they’re that strong.

These statements are false. While these drugs are quite addictive, not everyone who uses heroin, crack and/or methamphetamine becomes an addict the first time they use the drug. If that were the case then NONE of these drugs would have a legitimate medical use - but two of them do.

The fact (not "belief", FACT) is that only a very small minority of users suffer addiction upon first usage of any drug.

My comment regarding nicotine was based on the fact that the highly addictive nature of crack, methamphetamine and heroin is shared with nicotine (look it up if you do not believe me). It ranks right up there with heroin and methamphetamine, with only crack cocaine being considered MORE addictive.

118 posted on 12/22/2014 12:29:50 PM PST by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: WayneS

Your medical uses argument is specious. Addicts are not taking them for medical reasons, nor do they have doctor supervision or prescriptions nor dosing instructions.

And if you’re complaining that I use the term “all” and “never” too severely, I can amend that to “almost all” and “almost never”. And you know it’s correct. these substances are highly, highly addictive because that’s the point. these substances take away people’s ability to not take them if they don’t want to. Far more than a beer does. far more than one cigarette does.

You have to develop tolerances to cigarettes and alcohol because they taste like crap the first times. you have to force yourself to develop tastes for cigarettes and beer and some people never get over that.

The evidence is clear that most people who drink can live with alcohol in their lives without becoming a danger to themselves and/or others, without it becoming a serious problem to them or others, in one way or another. Not true at all for meth users, crack users, or heroin users.

And we should just end it now because nothing either you or I say is going to be satisfactory to the other. So Merry Christmas and let’s move on to better things.


119 posted on 12/22/2014 12:56:48 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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