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This is a Savage in .308 ,, TC made .223 bolt handguns like this in 1986...
Posted on 02/14/2015 4:53:28 PM PST by bkopto
"Some ammunition that was previously exempted as “primarily intended to be used for sporting purposes,” specifically 5.56mm constituent projectiles of SS109 and M855 cartridges, will again be regulated as “armor piercing ammunition.” Except as provided by law, no person may manufacture or import such ammunition, and manufacturers or importers may not sell or deliver such ammunition. ATF will maintain the exemption for 30-06 M2AP cartridges
Proposed change to ATF regulatory framework for "armor piercing" ammunition.
(Excerpt) Read more at ar15.com ...
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This is a Savage in .308 ,, TC made .223 bolt handguns like this in 1986...
I'd say it is highly debatable that it is AP.
“high power bolt action”
Surplus 7.62x54r for the Mosin will probably go thru an engine block. Steel core stuff.
While I see where the feds have the Commerce Clause authority to regulate manufactured goods traded across state borders, I have a problem with ATF interfering with intrastate commerce.
More specifically, regardless what FDR’s activist justices wanted everybody to think about the extent of Congress’s Commerce Clause powers when it wrongly decided Wickard v. Filburn in corrupt Congress’s favor in 1942, FDR’s thug justices wrongly ignored that the Supreme Court had previous clarified that the states have never delegated to the feds, expressly via the Constitution, the specific power to regulate intrastate commerce or to regulate agriculture. This is evidenced by the following excerpts from case opinions.
”State inspection laws, health laws, and laws for regulating the internal commerce of a State, and those which respect turnpike roads, ferries, &c. are not within the power granted to Congress [emphases added].” —Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
”From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited. None to regulate agricultural production is given, and therefore legislation by Congress for that purpose is forbidden [emphasis added].” —United States v. Butler, 1936.
In fact, regardless that federal Democrats and RINOs will argue that if the Constitution doesn’t say that they cannot do something then they can do it, note that the Supreme Court has condemned that foolish idea. More specifically, the Supreme Court has clarified in broad terms that powers not expressly delegated to the feds via the Constitution, the specific power to regulate intrastate commerce and agriculture in this case, are prohibited to the feds.
”From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited [emphasis added].” —United States v. Butler, 1936.
So states can produce alcohol, tobacco and guns without federal interference, imo, until such things are sold across state borders.
As a side note concerning federal gun regulations, note that gun regulations for civilians don’t seem to have appeared in the federal books until Constitution-ignoring socialist became president, FDR and his corrupt Congress infamous for blatantly overstepping the federal government’s constitutionally limited powers.
Franklin Roosevelt: The Father of Gun Control
Also, the fact that the feds are sticking their big noses in intrastate places where they don’t belong is more evidenced that the 17th Amendment should never have been ratified. If federal senators still answered only to state lawmakers then the Senate would probably have killed the bills which gave ATF its constitutionally indefensible power to interfere with intrastate commerce and gun-control laws.
Hmmm...interesting.
One could make the same argument about .50 cal and several other rounds.
In fact, any round could be shot from a handgun but, thus us about the number of guns in current use and is in a fact a back door ruling...
Was at the range today and every single person wbo read this was pissed.
I wasn’t. I shoot .308...
Erh, I did before I had that boating accident.
Nowadays I mostly shoot Bull...
Remington XP 100 was made 1963-86.
Most rifle cartridges to .35.
Bolt action, single shot.
Biggest killer of mankind = contraceptives + child sacrifice. Ain’t seen nothing yet, though. I’ve been trying to figure out the proportion of people killed in the Great Tribulation, but haven’t sat down to do the math. Depends on whether the population is actually going up because of Muslim babies or down because of legalized child sacrifice. Ah, the irony.
bfl...
The 2nd amendment has nothing to do with sporting purposes.
I wonder how many LEOs have been killed with AR pistols utilizing ss109 projectiles since 1986? I’m guessing-not a single one. By contrast, I wonder how many cops have been killed by young black men with regular old handguns firing cheap hardball style ammunition. This is just a parting shot at gun owners.
And they turn up the heat on the water the frog is sitting in another degree,
I have one. It wouldn’t stabilize an ss109 projectile when I tested it. I think lightweight “varmint grenades” would be better.
Strictly speaking, they’re actually complying with Congress now where they didn’t for decades. The AP law should be repealed.
seems if they can’t ban guys they are determined to EO the outlaw of ammunition
The problem is that AP is very specifically, and very badly, defined in law. Congress will not repeal it, and will screw it up more if they change it.
First they came for the 5.45x39 but I didn't speak out because I did not have an AK-74
Then they came for the 5.56x45 M855 and I did not speak out because I could still get M193 ...
I have my M855
And a pistol to shoot it from.
As long as the potential (and real) fascists have armor, the people should be able to pierce it. What are they afraid of? What do they want to do to the people that would make them scared of an armed resistance?
ATF makes new law out of whole, or not whole cloth whenever it suits their non-2nd Amendment purposes.
Give your ‘minor nod’ to the Islamist in the White Mosque.
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