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In 2009, Obama stole money from retired teachers and police officers in Indiana
wordpress ^ | February 16, 2015 | Dan from Squirrel Hill

Posted on 02/16/2015 1:11:23 PM PST by grundle

In 2009, Obama stole money from retired teachers and police officers in Indiana

During the Chrysler bankruptcy, Obama violated the Fifth Amendment and more than 150 years of bankruptcy law by illegally treating secured creditors worse than unsecured creditors. Some of these secured creditors were retired teachers and police officers from Indiana.

Richard A. Epstein, a law professor at New York University School of Law, wrote of this:

“Upsetting this fixed hierarchy among creditors is just an illegal taking of property from one group of creditors for the benefit of another, which should be struck down on both statutory and constitutional grounds.”

Todd Zywicki, Professor of Law at George Mason University School of Law, wrote that Obama’s treatment of secured creditors was…

“… dangerous to the rule of law.”

The Economist wrote that Obama’s actions could…

“… establish a terrible precedent. Bankruptcy exists to sort legal claims on assets. If it becomes a tool of social policy, who will then lend to struggling firms in which the government has a political interest?”

Francis Cianfrocca, the CEO of Bayshore Networks, wrote that Obama’s actions were…

“… an astonishingly reckless abrogation of contract law that will introduce a new level of uncertainty into business transactions at all levels, and make wealth generation more difficult going forward… An extraordinary uncertainty has been created when the most powerful man in the world can rewrite contracts and choose winners and losers in private negotiations as he sees fit. Since this is an unquantifiable uncertainty, and not a quantifiable risk, its effect on business and investor confidence will be large and unpredictable. As in the 1930s, a time when government also cavalierly rewrote private contracts, the prudent approach for business will be to invest minimally and wait for another administration.”



TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: barackobama; obama; unions
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1 posted on 02/16/2015 1:11:23 PM PST by grundle
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To: grundle
During the Chrysler bankruptcy, Obama violated the Fifth Amendment and more than 150 years of bankruptcy law by illegally treating secured creditors worse than unsecured creditors.

One of the many faces of "fundamental transformation."

2 posted on 02/16/2015 1:12:30 PM PST by Steely Tom (Vote GOP for A Slower Handbasket)
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To: Steely Tom

“Fundamental transformation” and flagrant law breaking.
The USA learned nothing about him from that episode.


3 posted on 02/16/2015 1:17:20 PM PST by Sasparilla (If you want peace, prepare for war.)
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To: Steely Tom

“One of the many faces of “fundamental transformation.””

Yep. And they credit him with saving the auto industry. He only saved the UAW doing what he did.

I’d love to see America’s auto industry now had the auto making companies dissolved “naturally”.

I’m sure the companies that would have been snatched up by someone who knows how to run a business and would have told the unions to pound salt after killing the industry.

Instead, we’re stuck with what we have now until the next time it collapses under the weight of union shortsightedness.


4 posted on 02/16/2015 1:28:30 PM PST by edh (I need a better tagline)
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To: grundle

Have there been any court decisions since 2009 that addressed these issues on a statutory basis?


5 posted on 02/16/2015 1:29:01 PM PST by research99
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To: grundle

Great quotes from smart men and all 100% true:
...an illegal taking of property from one group of creditors for the benefit of another
…dangerous to the rule of law
...tool of social policy
...who will lend to struggling firms in which the government has a political interest?
...make wealth generation more difficult going forward
...most powerful man in the world can rewrite contracts and choose winners and losers in private negotiations as he sees fit
...business will invest minimally and wait for another administration

BUT not ONE of them truly gets what the communist muslim is doing.


6 posted on 02/16/2015 1:29:59 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not, no explanation is possible)
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To: grundle; humblegunner; Syncro
And in other news, water is still wet.

(The Gooch demonstrates an amazing grasp of the perfectly obvious.)

7 posted on 02/16/2015 1:30:12 PM PST by shibumi ("Vampire Outlaw of the Milky Way")
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To: grundle
what troubled me is, there wasn't any push-back from the bankruptcy judges, who should have stopped this.
8 posted on 02/16/2015 1:31:40 PM PST by stylin19a (obama = Eddie Mush)
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To: grundle

Do the teachers and polo e have standing to sue?


9 posted on 02/16/2015 1:37:39 PM PST by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: grundle
Obama violated the Fifth Amendment and more than 150 years of bankruptcy law

Perhaps a list of these years, identified by the year, might be worthy of listing.

I'd sure like to see a list of those years.

10 posted on 02/16/2015 1:41:20 PM PST by humblegunner
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To: hoosiermama

I think the State of Inidana sued. It got shot down for some reason.


11 posted on 02/16/2015 2:07:07 PM PST by jaydubya2
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To: grundle
Heavy Hitters: Top All-Time Donors, 1989-2014
http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php
American Fedn of State, County & Municipal Employees $60,949,129 [Democrat] 81% [Republican] 1%”


12 posted on 02/16/2015 2:24:50 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: grundle
I couldn't believe Congress allowed him to do this at the time. It was illegal and they said nothing. His admin not only stopped the creditors from being paid, but they cherry picked the dealerships that were allowed to stay in business.
13 posted on 02/16/2015 2:35:54 PM PST by FR_addict (Boehner needs to go!)
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To: research99

None that I’m aware of.


14 posted on 02/16/2015 2:39:06 PM PST by grundle
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To: hoosiermama
They did sue. You can read about it here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_State_Police_Pension_Trust_v._Chrysler_LLC

15 posted on 02/16/2015 2:41:49 PM PST by grundle
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To: familyop

Thanks for those statistics.


16 posted on 02/16/2015 2:43:56 PM PST by grundle
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To: FR_addict

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>> “I couldn’t believe Congress allowed him to do this at the time. It was illegal and they said nothing.” <<

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Under the guidance of Pelousey and Reid?

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17 posted on 02/16/2015 3:10:07 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: grundle

We live in a banana republic and the Democrats keep giving the U.S. Citizens the banana.


18 posted on 02/16/2015 3:14:45 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: grundle

Well the half breed quota boy kicked my dog.


19 posted on 02/16/2015 4:44:43 PM PST by Joe Boucher
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To: grundle

While we scoff...

“GM is alive and Bin Laden is dead” was a pretty good slogan for Baraq.

He won in 2012 with $4 gas, 8% unemployment (13% real), surging food prices, trillion dollar deficits, and a totally failed foreign policy.


20 posted on 02/16/2015 4:50:05 PM PST by nascarnation (Impeach, convict, deport)
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