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If America Is Going Independent, Is Ted Cruz a Smart Choice for 2016?
Wall Street Cheat Sheet ^ | March 26, 2015 | Anthea Mitchell

Posted on 03/29/2015 6:20:40 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Senator Ted Cruz (R-Texas) may be gaining ground as the conservative favorite for 2016. The Tea Party-affiliated Republican has long been one of the more vocal and intense individuals on the GOP’s side of the aisle. Many on the far right would be pleased to see him run, and he’s likely to have a flood of Tea Party support.

“Many social conservatives feel their issues have been kicked to the side, and they are frustrated. Someone like Cruz taking the nomination in 2016 would give them a voice again. It’s still early, and there are many potential candidates that could appeal to this base, but there is no question Senator Cruz has some early momentum with them,” said Greg Mueller, a conservative strategist, to The Washington Post. “He hits all of the main themes the conservative base want to hear.” This may be so, but pushing Cruz to the front of the party candidates would likely be a dire mistake for Republicans in the 2016 election — at least judging on the current climate.

Cruz has the passion and vitality to draw strong supporters from the far right, but it’s the middle-of-the-road voters that politicians need to be worrying about more and more these days. According to a Gallup poll published earlier this year, Americans are identifying as Independents in record numbers, hitting 42 percent in January and remaining the highest reported alignment on average over the course of the last five years, and never falling below 40 percent in the last three three years.

Only 25 percent of Americans considered themselves Republican while 31 percent self-identified as Democrats, but this isn’t the split that needs the most attention — especially given how those numbers wobble when you look at polls that measure “leaning” identity. A slightly older, but more relevant study from 2013 added together thirteen separate Gallup polls to find that 38 percent of respondents considered themselves ideologically conservative. That was a solid advantage over the 23 percent who ticked the liberal box, but not a strong lead at all over the 34 percent who considered themselves moderate.

What’s more, the younger crowd is particularly likely to step away from party loyalty, according to a Pew Research study that found 50 percent of Millennials consider themselves Independents. They also see fewer distinguishing factors in parties, apparently, as only 31 percent say they see big differences between the Republican and Democratic party compared to the 58 percent who say the same in the Silent generation and the 43 percent overall average.

Some might take this as a sign that a more extreme candidate like Ted Cruz could show voters a strong stance on issues and avoid the flip flopping that makes so many feel politicians are all alike. “I have been very clear that, in my view, the 2016 election is the most important election of our lifetime. Our nation teeters on the brink of a precipice. And I believe 2016 will be an election like 1980 about two fundamentally different visions for America,” said Cruz in an interview with the National Journal. That’s as clear an intent to show party disparity as you can get. But going extreme would be the wrong choice, because while more Millennials identify as Independents and a huge number see the parties as fairly comparable, they still tend to vote Democrat (at least based on the 2008 and 2012 elections).

Pew Research also reflects Gallup’s data on independents overall, showing steady increases in polls since 1990, just shy of a 10 percentage point increase between 1990 and 2013, as seen in the table below.

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) announced what he called “some news you won’t want to miss” early Monday morning on Twitter, and just as most predicted, the news was of presidential import:

I’m running for President and I hope to earn your support! pic.twitter.com/0UTqaIoytP

— Ted Cruz (@tedcruz) March 23, 2015

The announcement marks one of the first definitive decisions for 2016, and will be supplemented with a talk given at Liberty University in Virginia. Cruz is distinct from many of the other candidates in his party in that he has been more outspoken and more extreme in his conservatism than other candidates. Likewise, he’s more aggressive in announcing his decision to run, getting a head start over others who have only announced an investigation into the possibility of running, though notably nowhere near leading in the polls or in headlines (a distinction that goes to Jeb Bush. Ultimately, Mr. Cruz might end up being the Republican’s new Sarah Palin candidate; someone that could draw in a certain amount of popularity with bold stances that appeal strongly to a certain subset of the party, but not a truly strategic choice to pit against Hillary Clinton, if she chooses to run.

It’s possible that Cruz could move away from his reputation as a stubbornly uncooperative candidate with a history of grinding works to a stop — i.e. his anti-Obamacare filibuster — with his new emphasis on foreign affairs. However, 2016 is still a long ways off. Given Cruz’s track record and the long list of controversial legislation still to be dealt with, it may be difficult for him to maintain a reputation that will appeal widely enough and won’t alienate more left-leaning conservatives.


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KEYWORDS: conservatives; cruz; independents; tedcruz
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I’m an independent who used to be a Republican until they disgusted me so much I quit the party. More of the people who self identify as independent are conservatives than not. Many of us have given up on the GOP. I re-engaged last year to rid us of Eric Cantor and I am enthused by Dave Brat’s success. If Ted Cruz gets nominated, I may become a Repubican again.


21 posted on 03/29/2015 7:20:11 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Definition of INDEPENDENT 1 : not dependent: as a (1) : not subject to control by others : self-governing (2) : not affiliated with a larger controlling unit b (1) : not requiring or relying on something else : not contingent (2) : not looking to others for one's opinions or for guidance in conduct (3) : not bound by or committed to a political party WHO is the epitome of independence? TED CRUZ 2016 http://www.tedcruz.org/
22 posted on 03/29/2015 7:26:17 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: Lurkinanloomin; stars & stripes forever

I sincerely hope they nominate Cruz. If not, I’m not even going to bother voting since if they don’t nominate Cruz it will likely be Jeb.


23 posted on 03/29/2015 7:42:29 PM PDT by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: SoConPubbie

Ping.


24 posted on 03/29/2015 7:44:49 PM PDT by upchuck (The current Federal Governent is what the Founding Fathers tried to prevent. WAKE UP!! Amendment V.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
and he’s likely to have a flood of Tea Party support.

Why can't they spell it correctly.

TEA Party, as in Taxed Enough Already Party.

25 posted on 03/29/2015 7:45:13 PM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi (NOPe to GOPe)
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To: CorporateStepsister

I sincerely hope they nominate Cruz.

TED CRUZ must be the candidate to beat. The Democrats, the Republicans AND the media are against him.

Ted Cruz has true grit.


26 posted on 03/29/2015 7:55:40 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
As more and more Republicans become fed up to our eyeballs with ball-less R congress peeps, more of us are re-registering as Indy. I did it to send a message. Cruz brings me back in an instant. So yes, I agree there are fewer R's.

It'll be a landslide like '84, '88, '10, and '14 with no history making, white-guilt cleansing candidate. The "first" (black, woman, hispanic, gay) meme ain't gonna work.

27 posted on 03/29/2015 8:12:10 PM PDT by chiller (One from the Right - One for the Fight)
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To: iowacornman

This is not a horse race where you pick WIN PLACE OR SHOW. This is what YOU believe in!! Don’t vote for some damned establishment blob “because he can win”. That makes me vomit. Vote you damned convictions!! If you don’t have any, stay the hell home!!

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Yeah, we see how well this worked out didn’t we? Two terms of Obama and the final destruction of our nation.

Interesting some saw Romney (a Rino) as bigger threat than our Marxist President.

There is nothing even remotely patriotic or smart about your advice here. People like you gave us a second term of Obama. Damned Idiots!


28 posted on 03/29/2015 8:14:25 PM PDT by Artcore
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To: stars & stripes forever

Cruz will drag this country kicking and screaming back to adult maturity and the pantywaist Republicans are frightened of facing the reality of our problems. I do believe that the young will in fact rally behind him and will support him. If the GOP had run Paul Ryan as candidate for President, Obama would have been booted out. I’m sure of it.


29 posted on 03/29/2015 8:42:13 PM PDT by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Some body might just want to point out to the pollsters that a lot of those new Independents, are really just pissed off conservatives who feel that they have been deserted and sh#t upon by the Republican Party.


30 posted on 03/29/2015 10:24:40 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Reagan Pulled me from the Democrat Party when I was young


31 posted on 03/30/2015 2:07:36 AM PDT by dila813
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
left-leaning conservatives.

What the hell is this?

Left leaning conservative.


32 posted on 03/30/2015 4:18:47 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Exterminate the terrorist savages, everywhere.)
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To: Artcore
There is nothing even remotely patriotic or smart about your advice here. People like you gave us a second term of Obama. Damned Idiots!

The party twice picks RINOs 'who can win', against the wishes of conservatives, but who both run anemic, tired and uninspired campaigns and both fail miserably. Just as conservatives warned.

But who do some persist in blaming? Conservatives.

The logic of this is a mystery.

33 posted on 03/30/2015 5:26:43 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter

When the choice is between a RINO and a Marxist the decision for me was an easy one!

The fact that people like you saw Romney as a bigger threat than a Marxist is beyond belief!


34 posted on 03/30/2015 7:51:19 AM PDT by Artcore
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To: Artcore
Feel free to post any real evidence you have that conservatives refused to vote in any significant numbers in 2008 and 2012, causing Obama to win the presidency.

Otherwise consider yourself a hysteric.

35 posted on 03/30/2015 7:56:10 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter

I’m speaking specifically of 2012 and you know it.

Over 4 million Republicans stayed home in 2012 and didn’t vote in the presidential election. Rush has said as much.

It is beyond pathetic watching people like you excuse the inaction of “Conservatives” to try and remove a Marxist from Office. Once again, the fact that people like you see a RINO as a bigger threat that a Marxist with a four year track record is beyond rational thought.

There’s nothing Patriotic about allowing a Marxist a second term to complete his destruction on our nation and people. And yet those who stayed home have the nerve to actually bitch about what Obama’s been doing in his second term.

Sorry, but people like you helped Obama get a second term; you did nothing to help remove him. What abject losers!


36 posted on 03/30/2015 8:12:40 AM PDT by Artcore
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To: Artcore
Finished?

Now go change your shorts.

37 posted on 03/30/2015 8:14:00 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter

I didn’t expect you to answer like an adult, but rather the petulant child that you are. This perfectly mirrors your childish behavior in staying home in 2012 to have your little hissy fit.

Obama thanks idiots like you for helping him win a second term.


38 posted on 03/30/2015 8:21:53 AM PDT by Artcore
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To: upchuck; Kale; Jarhead9297; COUNTrecount; notaliberal; DoughtyOne; RitaOK; MountainDad; ...
Ted Cruz Ping!

If you want on/off this ping list, please let me know.

Please beware, this is a high-volume ping list!


CRUZ or LOSE!


39 posted on 03/30/2015 9:47:25 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Artcore
I've never missed an election, cupcake.

But what should I say to someone who thinks its OK for a party to abuse its base all term long and brays like a jilted teeny bopper when a good portion of the base responds by losing interest at election time?

Not to mention spews feeble insults at the same time they're complaining about 'childish behavior'?

You bore me.

40 posted on 03/30/2015 10:19:28 AM PDT by skeeter
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