Posted on 04/14/2015 7:28:54 PM PDT by Kartographer
Good question and I think the answer is very few of us.
All the more reason to make sure you have 1 year of food stored up. And anything else you cannot live without.
That garden may not take off the first year.
How many of those meds are critical to you, that you could buy in advance and store in the refrigerator?
Since vitamins have such a long shelf life I like to keep about 2 years ahead, and I rotate them through a little box in the refrigerator that I keep some stuff in, for long term storage.
You have some things going for you there, a gated community, old but steady people around you, a gated community with clearly defined boundaries to outsiders, firm lines that make a a few old men with guns have more authority and more obvious ownership rights.
Something that all the older people have that they sometimes don’t realize is a huge asset, is that while they lose out on youth and strength and energy, they also don’t have to feed the fuel consuming body of a 22 year old male, while they were starving in Korean POW camps, it was noticed that our young men didn’t do very well and died the most, their metabolism had a much harder time being deprived of food.
There is a lot of intelligence and resourcefulness and experience among older people living in a gated community, and something of a proven record revealed in their long lives, in some ways your “group” could be one of the better, of the “stay in place” prepping situations.
I certainly hope that he does and then you can thank him daily.
If I were smart, I’d retire in some small town surrounded by swamp. Get a few small kayaks and plenty of ammo and fishing gear. Oh yeah, a ton of spices for cooking.
#5 will be shot and left in the street as a message.
In SHTF I’m building an army with my brother and few friends.
We’ll control vermin in our sector.
We are all stocked up...
You were looking for a thread on seekingarrangement.com
Don’t forget to buy extra vermin helper.
Yum.
In a widespread disaster, anyone “bugging out” would be much more likely to meet looters and highway robbers. As for second homes, there are already too many burglaries in isolated mountain areas. Those places would probably be hit, and in some cases, occupied by criminals from the nearest towns in such a disaster long before owners to get to them.
I believe after 3 mo. Skill is not as important as ruthless determination and stealth.
Yes, a pile of bodies around your property would be somewhat a giveaway as well.
They are scrambling to get everything back underground in Cheyenne Mt - my long-hauler friend has been watching it - and other things you really don't want to know about - you need your sleep
because they see a real possibility of Iran delivering an EMP.
although I wouldn't be shocked if "O" - and those behind him - isn't working hand in glove for this - they'd love us to be immobilized long enough for take over...and the DC folk do have their vast underground complexes, completely stocked, where they can ride out the first months of all the death on the surface...and then arise and rule...
thing is - If you don't already have your gardens established - and fruit tress/berries/well/laying hens etc - established - and haven't learned the 'old' skills like: make butter, soap, can, hunt (dress game) know and forage local wild plants, fish, etc - you're gonna have a less than even chance of survival.
EMP is the great bogey man, but it is all speculation. A 90% mortality rate is beyond reason—sheer fear-mongering.
As for prepping, there is plenty of food in temperate areas. However, most Americans would starve before they eat it, or poison themselves before they figure out what was safe. 2000 calories is not a subsistance ration. Two-thirds of the world lives on half that. It’s not optimal, but it is doable.
Poeple will band together, and the skill sets of modern people are pretty amazing. EMP only affects electronic circuits. That leaves a substantial amount of infrastructure—think diesel and non-electronic ignition gasoline. There are plenty of us who can fix, rebuild or even build machines from damn near anything.
I believe in individuality and freedom, but I also understand that me and my family will be more secure with a number of like-minded individuals. God, Family, Country—in that order. If the country falls, then we go back to the town as the primary social organization. Hell, kinda sounds good to me.
The flatlanders that think they can survive in the mountains are nothing more than food for the forest critters. Of course, the critters need to eat...
I have yet to read one mention on prep articles on clothing, as in repair and making them. Clothing is now made so cheaply, it will not make it through a few wash boardings.
Having a home too small to wedge a treadle machine along with my old all-metal electric sewing machine, I have a hand crank machine. A 99K Singer will sew nicely through leather, or silk. Plenty of threads and material on hand, especially the heavy materials like duck, broadcloth and muslin. I also have 2 spinning wheels, a loom and knitting tools, along with plenty of wool and cotton. Wool socks, hats, Möbius scarves and gloves are on hand around here.
I am learning to quilt, making “window quilts” for extra insulation on the windows, as my learning tool.
Those who can, rarely mention canning meats or meals with meat. I have yet to read about the importance of having plenty of fats on hand, or how to render them for eating or soap making. Lard and tallow boosts the calorie intake, and they are good for you.
You can dehydrate eggs, though the USDA and “experts” go into fits at the idea. Great protein additive. Powdered eggs are not too bad, if the hens are in their down season for egg production.
been there - 99 Tahoe / last year - it got stuck down at camp, had to drive it back to the city (60 mi) in low range - took me 3 hrs.....Mrs Rev911 was duly amused. Now I have a decent mechanical skill set - but it showed me that mechanical simplicity is wheres its at -
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