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12 Bad Strategies That Will Get Preppers Killed
The Organic Prepper ^ | 4/11/15 | Daisy Luther

Posted on 04/14/2015 7:28:54 PM PDT by Kartographer

Bad Strategy #1: “I’ll just hunt and live off the land.”
Bad Strategy #2: “I’ll go into the woods and live there.”
Bad Strategy #3: “I’ll bug out on foot for 73 miles through the mountains, even though I don’t regularly exercise.”
Bad Strategy #4: “I don’t need a group. I’m going to go it alone.”
Bad Strategy #5: “I don’t need to store food, I’ll just take everyone else’s because I’m a bad-ass.”
Bad Strategy #5: “I don’t need to store food, I’ll just take everyone else’s because I’m a bad-ass.”
Bad Strategy #7: “I don’t store food. I store seeds.”
Bad Strategy #8: “I’ll just run a generator and continue on like nothing ever happened.”
Bad Strategy #9: “I’ll just use my fireplace for cooking and heating.”
Bad Strategy #10: “I’m going to hunker down in the city and scavenge what I need.”
Bad Strategy #11: “I’ve got my supplies, and now I don’t need to think about gloom and doom.”
Bad Strategy #12: We’ll set up a perimeter and shoot anyone who breaches it.

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To: JRandomFreeper

Good question and I think the answer is very few of us.

All the more reason to make sure you have 1 year of food stored up. And anything else you cannot live without.

That garden may not take off the first year.


61 posted on 04/14/2015 9:38:23 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Ax

How many of those meds are critical to you, that you could buy in advance and store in the refrigerator?

Since vitamins have such a long shelf life I like to keep about 2 years ahead, and I rotate them through a little box in the refrigerator that I keep some stuff in, for long term storage.

You have some things going for you there, a gated community, old but steady people around you, a gated community with clearly defined boundaries to outsiders, firm lines that make a a few old men with guns have more authority and more obvious ownership rights.

Something that all the older people have that they sometimes don’t realize is a huge asset, is that while they lose out on youth and strength and energy, they also don’t have to feed the fuel consuming body of a 22 year old male, while they were starving in Korean POW camps, it was noticed that our young men didn’t do very well and died the most, their metabolism had a much harder time being deprived of food.

There is a lot of intelligence and resourcefulness and experience among older people living in a gated community, and something of a proven record revealed in their long lives, in some ways your “group” could be one of the better, of the “stay in place” prepping situations.


62 posted on 04/14/2015 9:54:38 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: bicyclerepair
I beg Jesus to come into my heart daily

I certainly hope that he does and then you can thank him daily.

63 posted on 04/14/2015 10:00:33 PM PDT by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: Kartographer
Sandbagging your perimeter is another bad way of yelling, "Hey! Dig ME!" *chuckle*


64 posted on 04/14/2015 10:06:08 PM PDT by Viking2002 (The Avatar is back by popular request.)
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To: Kartographer

If I were smart, I’d retire in some small town surrounded by swamp. Get a few small kayaks and plenty of ammo and fishing gear. Oh yeah, a ton of spices for cooking.


65 posted on 04/14/2015 10:14:55 PM PDT by Dogbert41 (All the days of my life were written in your book before there was one of them!)
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To: Kartographer

#5 will be shot and left in the street as a message.

In SHTF I’m building an army with my brother and few friends.

We’ll control vermin in our sector.

We are all stocked up...


66 posted on 04/14/2015 10:19:23 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Star Traveler

You were looking for a thread on seekingarrangement.com


67 posted on 04/14/2015 10:42:43 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Vendome

Don’t forget to buy extra vermin helper.


68 posted on 04/14/2015 10:54:53 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

69 posted on 04/14/2015 11:26:45 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Kartographer
"I’ll bug out on foot for 73 miles through the mountains, even though I don’t regularly exercise."

Real mountains, like those in the central Rockies? That's also a bad idea for people who are in excellent physical condition. Anyone considering such a half baked plan should give it a trial run.

Start in the city on foot, hike uphill a few thousand feet in elevation and stay for a month, say, at least 60 miles from the city. See how that works out first. Realize that conditions in rural areas will be quite different after a terrible disaster that affects a large part of the country.

And rest assured that public park areas will be cleared for the purpose of preventing the many likely problems that would result from mobs of people heading up to them on foot without recreational intent. Most likely, they'll be turned back at checkpoints on the highways, and heading across private properties from a city would be a no-go.


70 posted on 04/15/2015 12:11:14 AM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Vendome

Yum.


71 posted on 04/15/2015 12:11:46 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: JRandomFreeper
" I have to wonder how many actually have the skill sets to live like it was the mid 1800s? And have actually practised being a mountain man over years?"

"Bugging out" from a city to go uphill into real mountains, even a capable pioneer of that sort would need a large, strong wagon with a strong team for hauling the many heavy, old fashioned tools needed. And during these dry times, very much hay. Granted, the highways with fast traffic and no road shoulders up the passes might prevent that.

...or the kind of motorized convoy and luxuries that movie folks used during the '70s to present us with the kind of hippy looking "mountain man" that most of us have really seen. [*Hork* *Erp*] That is, if there's no disaster preventing clear highways and getting fuel and services along the way.

Even pioneers during the 1800s preferred lower elevations for good reasons. Ditto, the Injuns, who were smart enough to keep high elevation visits short, warm, and head back down long before winter. Remember the story of the Donner Party?


72 posted on 04/15/2015 12:26:45 AM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Kartographer

In a widespread disaster, anyone “bugging out” would be much more likely to meet looters and highway robbers. As for second homes, there are already too many burglaries in isolated mountain areas. Those places would probably be hit, and in some cases, occupied by criminals from the nearest towns in such a disaster long before owners to get to them.


73 posted on 04/15/2015 12:34:19 AM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: PCPOET7

I believe after 3 mo. Skill is not as important as ruthless determination and stealth.


74 posted on 04/15/2015 12:41:52 AM PDT by exnavy (Freedom is not free.)
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To: Viking2002

Yes, a pile of bodies around your property would be somewhat a giveaway as well.


75 posted on 04/15/2015 12:45:24 AM PDT by exnavy (Freedom is not free.)
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To: Cold Heart; All
re-opening their under mountain command center ...

They are scrambling to get everything back underground in Cheyenne Mt - my long-hauler friend has been watching it - and other things you really don't want to know about - you need your sleep

because they see a real possibility of Iran delivering an EMP.

although I wouldn't be shocked if "O" - and those behind him - isn't working hand in glove for this - they'd love us to be immobilized long enough for take over...and the DC folk do have their vast underground complexes, completely stocked, where they can ride out the first months of all the death on the surface...and then arise and rule...

76 posted on 04/15/2015 12:49:54 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits ye shall know them.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
That garden may not take off the first year.

thing is - If you don't already have your gardens established - and fruit tress/berries/well/laying hens etc - established - and haven't learned the 'old' skills like: make butter, soap, can, hunt (dress game) know and forage local wild plants, fish, etc - you're gonna have a less than even chance of survival.

77 posted on 04/15/2015 1:01:15 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits ye shall know them.)
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To: Iron Munro

EMP is the great bogey man, but it is all speculation. A 90% mortality rate is beyond reason—sheer fear-mongering.

As for prepping, there is plenty of food in temperate areas. However, most Americans would starve before they eat it, or poison themselves before they figure out what was safe. 2000 calories is not a subsistance ration. Two-thirds of the world lives on half that. It’s not optimal, but it is doable.

Poeple will band together, and the skill sets of modern people are pretty amazing. EMP only affects electronic circuits. That leaves a substantial amount of infrastructure—think diesel and non-electronic ignition gasoline. There are plenty of us who can fix, rebuild or even build machines from damn near anything.

I believe in individuality and freedom, but I also understand that me and my family will be more secure with a number of like-minded individuals. God, Family, Country—in that order. If the country falls, then we go back to the town as the primary social organization. Hell, kinda sounds good to me.


78 posted on 04/15/2015 1:04:13 AM PDT by antidisestablishment ( Everyone is equal in the state of desperation. GOP delenda est!)
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To: Kartographer

The flatlanders that think they can survive in the mountains are nothing more than food for the forest critters. Of course, the critters need to eat...

I have yet to read one mention on prep articles on clothing, as in repair and making them. Clothing is now made so cheaply, it will not make it through a few wash boardings.

Having a home too small to wedge a treadle machine along with my old all-metal electric sewing machine, I have a hand crank machine. A 99K Singer will sew nicely through leather, or silk. Plenty of threads and material on hand, especially the heavy materials like duck, broadcloth and muslin. I also have 2 spinning wheels, a loom and knitting tools, along with plenty of wool and cotton. Wool socks, hats, Möbius scarves and gloves are on hand around here.

I am learning to quilt, making “window quilts” for extra insulation on the windows, as my learning tool.

Those who can, rarely mention canning meats or meals with meat. I have yet to read about the importance of having plenty of fats on hand, or how to render them for eating or soap making. Lard and tallow boosts the calorie intake, and they are good for you.

You can dehydrate eggs, though the USDA and “experts” go into fits at the idea. Great protein additive. Powdered eggs are not too bad, if the hens are in their down season for egg production.


79 posted on 04/15/2015 3:26:45 AM PDT by hearthwench (Debbi - Mom, NaNa, and always ornery)
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To: MediaMole
or the truck won’t shift out of 4x4 low

been there - 99 Tahoe / last year - it got stuck down at camp, had to drive it back to the city (60 mi) in low range - took me 3 hrs.....Mrs Rev911 was duly amused. Now I have a decent mechanical skill set - but it showed me that mechanical simplicity is wheres its at -

80 posted on 04/15/2015 3:38:28 AM PDT by Revelation 911
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