Posted on 07/21/2015 6:56:12 AM PDT by SatinDoll
The latest media-generated "blowup" is from The Donald saying that McCain isn't a real war hero.
Well, he's not folks.
You don't become a war hero by being captured by the enemy. You might become one through what you did before or after that, but the act of being captured itself doesn't qualify because you don't choose that.
McCain is not a war hero because there was nothing particularly valorous about his service.
Moreover, and at least as important, what he did to his first wife was viperous, not valorous.
Carol McCain is a war hero. She stuck with her imprisoned husband without complaint through his entire time being held as a POW, raising their three children alone while he was in prison. She made a series of valorous choices. But then she was in a terrible car accident that left her permanently impaired and John McCain ditched her for a very wealthy and beautiful heiress who not only became his lover but financed his political campaigns.
War hero eh? I think not.
McCain is a snake who will screw anyone for his own personal and political aggrandizement.
The reason the political establishment on both sides is all over Trump for this latest comment is that mistreating those who you have taken a sacred oath to before God, one that certainly ought to be more important than your petty oath to defend and protect the Constitution (which is also routinely ignored), is treated as a sport in politics.
Trump is right -- again.
The above is important. Sen.McCain is even disrespectful to his constituents, and he is their servant within the government.
Thank you for your post.
And thank you for your service to this country (I see from previous threads you served in the Navy).
There have always been whispers, both in and out of the service, about McCain's hero status. Certainly, his "performance" as Senator has long since erased any herioism he may have had while in uniform.
McCain has enough political pull to have announced publically on Thursday that the flag on the WH should be flown at half mast for the 4 Marines murdered by the Islamic terrorist..
The 4 Marines were murdered before 11 AM ...by the afternoon the flag should have been lowered..
Why hasn’t the “hero” McCain condemned Obama for not ordering it lowered ???
A hero defends and stands up for his fellow soldiers...
with his life..
McCain would not have been risking his life...physically or politically..
You’re welcome.
Here are the facts as we know them:
According to Colonel Ted Guy, John McCain’s commander as a POW, McCain collaborated with the enemy.
McCain is accused of giving information that led to the downing of 60 US aircraft
McCain is accused of training North Vietnamese air defense personnel
McCain is accused of making over 30 propaganda broadcasts against the US, broadcasts he moved to have classified when he was elected to the senate
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/07/20/trump-opens-mccains-treasonous-can-of-worms/
Right or wrong, as long as maclame has been “knighted” as a hero, they’re gonna dog the Donald. I respect maclame’s service but I’m not sure he respects his constituents service. I’m sure a lot of folks he ‘represents’ are also war heros but no front page coverage of them.
McCain is a high-profile Republican (RINO, actually) who willingly dances to the media’s tune.
Accordingly, the media will protect him.
John Mccain Exposed By Vietnam Vets And Pow's:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hr37eE0nO8
Trump has no right to talk about any Veteran more or less a former POW. Trump was a draft dodger who took advantage of deferments. In addition to that, I guess all politicians have to have a certain amount of ego to do what they do, but I find Trump to be the most self possessed and egotistical candidate in my memory. He may raise some good issues, but that shouldn’t be the only qualification to be President and Commander in Chief. Hitler raised some good issues that mobilized the German people. We know how that turned out.
The author of the article at The Blaze can not resist calling Donald Trump insulting names.
I do not think highly of Sen.McCain or Pres.Barack Hussein Obama II. Occasionally, I call the president BHO2, but it isn’t really insulting, just shorthand.
But I’ll just tender one observation: Trump made his billions by building, operating businesses, and by selling those businesses. He made his money the old fashioned way which I know pisses some people off to the point of derangement.
Really?
His commander while in captivity, MoH recipient ADM James Stockdale, saw it differently.
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NY Times
November 26, 1999
John McCain in the Crucible
By JAMES B. STOCKDALE
CORONADO, Calif. — I am not surprised by reports that Senator John McCain’s political enemies have been spreading rumors that his famous temper is a sign of a broader “instability” caused by his imprisonment in Vietnam.
In fact, a few weeks ago I received a call from an old friend who is also close to the George W. Bush campaign soliciting comments on Mr. McCain’s “weaknesses.” As I told that caller, I think John McCain is solid as a rock.
And I consider it blasphemy to smudge the straight-arrow prisoner-of-war record of a man who was near death when he arrived at Hoa Loa prison 1967: both arms broken, left leg broken, left shoulder broken by a civilian with a rifle butt.
He was eventually taken to the same rat-infested hospital room I had occupied two years earlier, and, like me, he had surgery on his leg. By then the Vietnamese had discovered that his father was the ranking admiral in the Pacific Fleet, and he received an offer that, as far as I know, was made to no other American prisoner: immediate release, no strings attached. He refused, thereby sentencing himself to four more years in a cell.
There was a special cramped and hot privy-like structure in that Hanoi prison reserved for whichever American was causing the Vietnamese the most trouble. I was the first in the camp to be locked up in it, and I gave it the name Calcutta.
There was only room for one person at a time in the cage, and after a couple of months I was taken out and marched back to a regular cell. As I limped along, I sneaked a peek at my replacement: John McCain, hobbling along on his own bad leg.
As one of the few Americans who spent more than four years in solitary confinement during that war, I know that pride and self-respect lead to aggressiveness, and aggressiveness leads to a deep sense of joy when one is under pressure. This is hardly a character flaw.
The military psychiatrists who periodically examine former prisoners of war have found that the more resistant a man was to harsh treatment, the more emotionally stable he is likely to become later in life.
The troublemakers who endured long stretches in solitary, the men we called the tigers, are for the most part more in tune with themselves now than are those who chose the easier path of nonconfrontation, which made them “deserving” of cell mates. The psychiatrists tell us that many of those prisoners who chose a more docile existence missed out on the joy of “getting even” after release; some look back on their performances with regret.
The psychiatrists have it partly right, but the truth of imprisonment is best learned from the writings of men who have spent a lot of time in cells, like Dostoyevsky, Cervantes and Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn. The last described his feeling of high-mindedness in his gulag writings:
“And it was only when I lay there on rotting prison straw that I sensed within myself the first stirrings of good. Gradually it was disclosed to me that the line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes, nor between political parties either — but right through every human heart — and through all human hearts. . . .
And that is why I turn back to the years of my imprisonment and say, sometimes to the astonishment of those about me: ‘Bless you, prison!’“
I understand that, and so does John McCain.
Glad you outed yourself as being against freedom of speech.
Let’s face it, John McCain was a perfumed prince of privilege in military circles.
He wound up playing Madonna’s part in “Swept Away” when his plane crashed.
He deserves no more respect than she does.
“Trump was a draft dodger who took advantage of deferments.”, So was:
Cheney
Gingrich
Limbaugh
and others.
Your correct. And, none of them are entitled to criticize Vets and/or POW’s either. I don’t have any quarrel with Trumps positions on immigration and I can even excuse his bombastic words about POW’s. What I object to about Trump is his self possessed egocentric attitude. Despite his financial successes, I truly believe the man has some mental issues that get overlooked because of his wealth.
Billy boy flat out dodged the draft AFTER getting a draft notice and Barry didn’t even register for the draft until 2008. Each went on to win two presidential elections. So, if anything, Trump’s draft deferments and lack of military experience may serve as resume enhancers, given the sterling successes achieved by Billy and Barry.
John McCain in the Crucible
New York Times
By JAMES B. STOCKDALE
November 26, 1999
[Excerpt:]
And I consider it blasphemy to smudge the straight-arrow prisoner-of-war record of a man who was near death when he arrived at Hoa Loa prison 1967: both arms broken, left leg broken, left shoulder broken by a civilian with a rifle butt.
He was eventually taken to the same rat-infested hospital room I had occupied two years earlier, and, like me, he had surgery on his leg. By then the Vietnamese had discovered that his father was the ranking admiral in the Pacific Fleet, and he received an offer that, as far as I know, was made to no other American prisoner: immediate release, no strings attached. He refused, thereby sentencing himself to four more years in a cell.
Trump on the other hand was running away from the war, partying in College with his millionare daddy’s money.
Iowa....... Walker at 18, Trump at 8
New Hampshire... Bush 16 Trump 10
South Carolina.. Bush 13 Trump 2
I want to know how Trump is going to win when he isn’t in first place in any of these primaries yet.
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