Posted on 12/29/2015 3:01:08 PM PST by LS
That didn't stop McCain (and many FReepers) from pointing out his lifetime ACU rating which was sophistry for anyone who had watched McCain's career.
Tell them that it’s just an;
“Eminence Front”
“It’s a put on”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HTVMh7fur4
Cornyn (TX) has a conservative rating as well, and he is a RINO sh*t. These politicians get very good at constructing a veneer of conservatism and vote just at the right time on the right issues to appear such, but then cave when the Dems tell them to.
For ex, and really, I'm not bashing Cruz, but he has a 100% ACU rating. Really? How? With a vote for Corker and TPP? So, obviously ACU must support those two bills.
Correct, they trade votes on some things to cover each other..they skip votes, cut deals with dems etc.
No ideology assessment test is perfect, especially in politics. There are several out there, and they are all over the board on the candidates.
Scoring legislative votes and positions can be tricky and the details should always be consulted. Some senators are notorious for going right for the year or two before reelection. Nevertheless, the ACU score is generally considered reliable as a relative measure of conservative voting.
That’s what I thought, but if Rubio is so high, why hasn’t he taken a stand on anything? And since he hasn’t, it leads me to think the ratings aren’t in synch with what I believe.
That thread was fun.
See.
The original poster should have linked in or included some examples of the comments from his adversaries.
Personally, I don’t really know how Twitter actually works.
What ?
You follow someone and get their “tweets”.
You want to reply directly but your “tweets” only go to the people that are following you?
This can’t be right.
You then have to “re-Tweet” with a hashtag or something to have a debate or back and forth dialogue?
I must be wrong because it makes no sense.
The ACU has been compromised in the past several years. It makes a lot of Republican members appear way more “Conservative” than they actually are.
FReeper Auh2orepublican has devised a system of adding up several different ratings systems from the right and left to come up with a more realistic figure of where they are.
You could drill down to the specific votes used in the ratings to get a better understanding of Rubio’s record, and then compare his votes to those of conservative stalwarts like Sessions and Coburn.
Coburn went native. Fortunately, he resigned from the Senate early.
Rubio is quick to avoid certain votes that would register his credentials. He skips a lot, so that he can stay on record for the votes he does take as being conservative. But the ACU is not the best indicator, IMHO. If you take ALL votes, then Rubio dropped overall from 80% to 79% and that doesn’t show his votes on MANY conservative issues, just his average of the total votes he cast.
On the other hand, Cruz is 96% and he votes regularly, with a lot more total votes. To be 96% with all votes together, then that is a better indicator over all. Rubio wants to play the game by his rules. He is a liar, a cheat, and if elected will be a democrat.
Almost every Republican Senator voted for TPP because Free Trade is the conservative position and protectionist taxation that’s passed on to the consumer is the union/lib position. Cruz was swayed to switch to no based on the fear-mongering being put out, but most weren’t.
ACU ratings have been weird in recent years. I don’t necessary agree with DJ that people have people been rated too well. A few years ago I was shocked at how LOW they were rating people. Basically they haven’t been consistent with their criteria, unless I’m to believe Congress has become sctizo. For a while they weren’t even posting the ratings in a format that could be easily read. Currently they don’t show what the votes they’re basing it on are, as far as I can tell. They should rehire whoever was in charge of doing the ratings 15 years ago. Fail.
Other ratings have major problems too, this one touted by some freepers had really wonky scores, “Liberty Score”, They have Maxine Waters rated ahead of some Republicans so clearly they have issues with their criteria. You gotta look at several of them and see how Congressmembers score in relation to each other.
Rubio generally scores well with most, as far as I recall. Paultards tend to score well too, despite holding dangerous non-conservative ideas that must not get voted on a lot.
I wish I had the time and skill with spreadsheets to just make my own. Haha.
As for Rubio I have some issues with him. I don’t trust him on immigration and he’s a bit neo-con-y. But I think he’s obviously significantly more conservative than McCain and Romney, horrible candidates from the left of the party. Not to mention better than Jeb. As the highest polling “GOPE” candidate I know he’s enemy #1 around here but I’d be fine if he was nominated. I’m for Cruz though.
My theory is that many boost their ratings with the meaningless stuff, but vote the wrong way on stuff that really could do something.
I did, I thought, kinda anyway. As far as I can see ACU is not listing what votes it’s uses. So I have no idea what they are. Pretty lame.
I am certain their ratings are only based on (25 selected) votes though, NOT position statements.
Back when they DID show which votes used they were always votes on final passage, key conservative amendments (or key liberal amendments), or key cloture votes in the Senate. Not meaningless procedural votes.
If your asking is his high ACU an illusion based on terrible vote selection by them, I don’t think it is.
Say what you want about him but you can’t say he’s from the left wing of the party. Near as I can tell he’s well off on the better half of Republican Senators. Despite having championed shamtesty he does indeed appear to be pretty dang conservative overall. So I would find more productive lines of attack than trying to tear down his voting record. You could point out it wouldn’t necessary translate to being a good exec and you’d have a valid point.
Coburn’s ACU rating though remained near perfect.
It’s proof of why I don’t trust the ACU’s rating system. When Coburn started to get buddy-buddy with Zero (who arrived with him to the Senate in 2005), I wondered if he had gone around the bend. The place just does something to people.
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