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Donald Trump is the most electable conservative
Coach is Right ^ | 2/1/16 | Kevin "Coach" Collins

Posted on 02/01/2016 9:30:14 AM PST by Oldpuppymax

A lot of people are very afraid of Donald Trump. His success will come at their expense because power in politics is a zero sum commodity. What one side gains is always at the expense of the other.

Every day we are presented with twisted and convenient definitions of conservatism from those who desperately don’t want to be on the losing side.

To them, changing one’s mind and acknowledging the value of conservative positions has become a sign of insincere conservatism. They echo the liberal line about Lincoln not being so great because he, “Came late” to the idea of freeing the slaves, without any Self-consciousness. Smug self-congratulation will do that.

“Moving the goal posts,” is another verbal gymnastic trick Trump’s attackers have borrowed from the Left. Thus Trump’s positions never seem to go far enough to satisfy them.

What a conservative candidate should stand for is very clear and Trump holds all of the important positions a conservative such hold.

Trump wants to: close our borders and tighten control over who comes into America;

Built a strong and feared military;

Keep America safe from those who want to kill us; and is not afraid to name them as Muslims;

Spread the pro-life message;

Institute an effective taxing plan that will provide opportunities for America’s recovery;

Deal with the world from a position of strength and regain respect...

(Excerpt) Read more at coachisright.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: 2016election; conservatives; gop; trump
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To: dem bums

No. Trump carries some negatives. The other candidates do not because they have not yet been identified. Stalin would get 45% of the vote in the democrat party, just to start. Let me put it this way: Once a candidate is actually labeled with conservative values then a person actually has a choice. You cannot place ‘blank sheet’ and ‘choice’ at the same time. The same applies to ‘second choice’ in the Republican poll. There really can’t be a second choice as long as your first choice is there. It is all talk show fodder until people actually have to make a choice between things that are actually known.


101 posted on 02/01/2016 11:04:06 AM PST by Lagmeister ( false prophets shall rise, and shall show signs and wonders Mark 13:22)
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To: fireman15; MacNaughton
Well, I just checked his posting history.

He's one those guys that just goes around posting memes.

Cruz is still my second choice, but that's hanging by a thread.

There is something unsettling about a man who attracts dishonest loons like Glenn Beck and this MacNaughton guy.

He's been posting since I've called him out on the dishonest meme, so it's not an error. It's deliberately choosing to propagate a lie.

102 posted on 02/01/2016 11:10:49 AM PST by TontoKowalski (Satisfied Customer #291)
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To: Lagmeister

Negatives are meaningless until the General Election.

Supporters of Trump for instance will likely be negative toward Cruz during the primary.

There are some polling data that are out their for scientific polling, there are some for entertainment purposes and there are some out there to influence and shape.


103 posted on 02/01/2016 11:10:56 AM PST by rbmillerjr (Reagan conservative: All 3 Pillars)
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To: HarleyLady27
When your car broke down, and people helped you, did you pay off their mortgage to thank them? No, but Trump did...

Repeating that old urban legend? I hear Henry Ford, Nat King Cole, Bill Gates, and others have done the same thing.

And yes, I do donate my time and money to vets and wounded warriors. Routinely, not just when it benefits me politically.

104 posted on 02/01/2016 11:17:01 AM PST by dem bums
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To: jaydee770

Conservatives have failed the country for the last 10 years at least. They have accomplished absolutely nothing. Conservatives are stuck in their heads where it is safe. The conservative brand is totally ineffective and has created no results.

You can criticize Trump fair enough.

But you have to criticize conservatives just as tough because they are a total failure in their approach! Conservatives better change their approach or we will get 10 more year of failure.


105 posted on 02/01/2016 11:17:29 AM PST by GilGil
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To: jmaroneps37

If Trump supposedly can’t beat Hillary, then why, for goodness sake, do people believe that other Republican candidates, who are currently losing to Trump, can beat Hillary???

Makes no sense.


106 posted on 02/01/2016 11:18:10 AM PST by Menthops (If you are reading this..... the GOPe hates you!)
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To: Oldpuppymax

trump is not a conservative but neither is he a liberal.....he is expectable but if you are voting for him because of conservative principals. that is not his guiding philosophy. I think trump will get done what he says he will do but don’t think that because he wants to do A B and C that he wants to do D. he might negotiate D away to get A B and C


107 posted on 02/01/2016 11:18:57 AM PST by PCPOET7
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To: CA Conservative

Right. I wonder if there weren’t so many candidates in the field, would he be doing as good as he is because he doesn’t poll well as a 2nd choice.


108 posted on 02/01/2016 11:19:55 AM PST by DrewsMum (If they wanted a conservative, they'd vote for one.)
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To: LibertyGirl14

At the start of Trump’s campaign they said the same thing. Conservatives, liberals, msm said he simply was not electable. With every 10 point rise he was pronounced dead.

The point of all this is that the polls were 100% wrong. I remember the Zogby polls showing Trump did not have a chance.

The polls were all wrong.

Trump most likely will win Iowa.

The point is that Gallup can be all wrong as well. All the polls have been wrong to date. Would not at all be unreasonable if Gallup’s polls were too.


109 posted on 02/01/2016 11:21:53 AM PST by GilGil
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To: Menthops
If Trump supposedly can't beat Hillary, then why, for goodness sake, do people believe that other Republican candidates, who are currently losing to Trump, can beat Hillary???

Perhaps because all of the polls show them beating Hillary??? Perhaps because Trump has a huge net negative rating with independents in all of the polls, much more than any other GOP candidate, including "unlikeable" Ted Cruz? Perhaps because Trump has a much higher percentage of even Republican voters who will never vote for him in the general election than any other GOP candidate?

110 posted on 02/01/2016 11:22:55 AM PST by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Drudge Report Super poll 1.2 million votes. Trump 36% Clinton .89% that is why Trump beats her like a drum.


111 posted on 02/01/2016 11:27:40 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: SubMareener

go read my comment at 24.


112 posted on 02/01/2016 11:29:26 AM PST by Axeslinger (Trump: the Kaitlyn Jenner of conservatism. One's not a woman, one's not a conservative.)
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To: DrewsMum
Well, we should start to see the field thin out rapidly. I think both Cruz and Rubio will be in it until after Super Tuesday for sure, so we will see where the support for the other candidates go as they begin to drop out. I can't see much of the evangelical support from Carson, Huckabee or Santorum going to Trump, and I think the supporters of the establishment candidates will move to Rubio before Trump.

There are only about a dozen true "winner take all" states. Most of the states that are not purely proportional have a hybrid system - most of the delegates are awarded by who wins the congressional district, with a few extra going to the overall state winner. So if Trump, Rubio and Cruz all end up with about 30% support, give or take, then this could go all the way to the convention without a winner.

113 posted on 02/01/2016 11:29:40 AM PST by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: CA Conservative

If there are “Republican” voters who would not vote for Trump if he is the nominee, then they need to be purged out of the party.

This whole “big tent” philosophy will become the death of true conservatism if we let it.


114 posted on 02/01/2016 11:32:20 AM PST by Menthops (If you are reading this..... the GOPe hates you!)
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To: Oldpuppymax

For years I hear that we need a conservative if we want to win. We finally have one in Ted Cruz and now I hear we need to elect the most electable candidate, despite being a moderate through and through.


115 posted on 02/01/2016 11:33:59 AM PST by Reaper19
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To: Oldpuppymax

Given his well-documented positions on several issues, his long-time support of liberal democrats, and his consistent support of government-run universal health care, the notion that he is a conservative candidate is dubious at best.

Also given the fact that his NEGATIVE favorability ratings are the highest of any candidate on either side (his unfavorable are higher than all other GOP candidates AND higher than either Hillary or Bernie), the notion that he is the most electable choice is dubious as well.

Author/Headline is 0 for 2.


116 posted on 02/01/2016 11:34:42 AM PST by VRWCmember
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To: Menthops
If there are "Republican" voters who would not vote for Trump if he is the nominee, then they need to be purged out of the party.

Would you say the same if the nominee is Bush? I don't know your position, but I will say I have seen a LOT of Trump supporters that have sworn that they will stay home if Bush is the nominee who seem to think it is heresy if anyone says the same about Trump.

For myself, I am not a "Republican" voter - I am a conservative, and I do not consider Trump to be a conservative candidate. He is a populist that has managed to tap into the sentiment in the base of the GOP right now. If the sentiment of the general population is different come the general election, Trump will change his positions accordingly.

117 posted on 02/01/2016 11:37:53 AM PST by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: Axeslinger

I am not looking for a Conservative. I am looking for someone who will restore the Republic. That requires combating the current political establishment at a level that they can’t handle.

I spent 40 years in and around the military/industrial complex. If you haven’t been inside the belly of the beast, you can’t possibly imagine how bad it is. Any one of the career politicians, and Ted Cruz is a career politician, can not handle this corrupt gang of thieves.

Now, if you don’t see that, then I am not sure what more can be said that will convince you. Luckily, it looks as if Donald Trump is going to run the table of the Republican primary, and sweep the floor with whomever the Democrats finally run.


118 posted on 02/01/2016 11:39:09 AM PST by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: Oldpuppymax

That might be true if he was a conservative. But since he has shown himself historically to be a typical east coast big city liberal the question is essentially baseless.

Up until 6-8 month ago he was pro abortion, anti gun, pro gay rights and pro single payer, but hey he’s going to build that wall right?


119 posted on 02/01/2016 11:40:25 AM PST by redangus
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To: Menthops
If there are "Republican" voters who would not vote for Trump if he is the nominee, then they need to be purged out of the party.

What mechanism do you imagine exists that would allow you to identify those voters who fail to vote for Trump? What process would you employ to purge those voters from the party? Should the punishment for non-support of Trump end there, or can you think of other consequences such dissidents should face?

120 posted on 02/01/2016 11:44:25 AM PST by dead ("I'm up to my eyeball in virgin goats!" - Mullah Omar)
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