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Why Apple's shameless fight with the FBI is all about ego, not just cause
BetaNews.com ^ | 2-22-2016 | Derrick Wlodarz

Posted on 02/22/2016 10:07:49 AM PST by hasb3an

After spending the last few days soaking up as much as possible on the Apple-FBI San Bernardino iPhone spat, the evidence -- in my eyes -- has become crystal clear. Apple's planted itself on the wrong side of history here for numerous reasons, and is using nothing less than a finely scripted legalese tango in defending its ulterior motives.

As a part time, somewhat auxiliary member of the tech media at large, I'm a bit embarrassed at how poorly this story has been covered by my very own colleagues. Many of those who should undeniably have a more nuanced, intricate understanding of the technical tenets being argued here have spent the last week pollinating the internet with talking point, knee-jerk reaction.

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TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Government
KEYWORDS: apple; encryption; fbi; sanbernardino
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1 posted on 02/22/2016 10:07:49 AM PST by hasb3an
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To: hasb3an

Apple should break open this phone, but NOT give the key to the feds.


2 posted on 02/22/2016 10:11:34 AM PST by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: hasb3an

Ask yourself if China demanded Apple open the phone would already be opened.


3 posted on 02/22/2016 10:12:19 AM PST by scooby321
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To: clee1

Apple should break open this phone, but NOT give the key to the feds.


That sounds fair.


4 posted on 02/22/2016 10:12:24 AM PST by samtheman (Elect Trump, Build Wall. End Censorship.)
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To: hasb3an

All the libtards coming out against Apple convince me more and more that Apple is right


5 posted on 02/22/2016 10:12:52 AM PST by Mr. K (Trump/Cruz 2016)
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To: hasb3an
Why Apple's shameless fight with the FBI is all about ego, not just cause

Apple's multi-billion dollar team of corporate lawyers aren't going to choose a fight with the FBI and the federal government over "ego". This fight is about federal control over Apple's device security - something that concerns Apple and other tech companies, and something that should frighten every consumer of technology devices - we will be the ultimate losers in this if the federal government wins.
6 posted on 02/22/2016 10:12:57 AM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: clee1

Exactly


7 posted on 02/22/2016 10:13:06 AM PST by xzins (Have YOU Donated to the Freep-a-Thon? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/qa)
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To: hasb3an
I'll never, never buy any apple product.

Bite that, Mr. Big Shot....protector of the world...not.

8 posted on 02/22/2016 10:13:09 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: clee1
Apple should break open this phone, but NOT give the key to the feds.

They wouldn't have to. As soon as Apple breaks open this phone, the feds, state agencies, and local agencies will line up at Apple's doorstep with a stack of iPhones and subpoenas saying "you've proven you can do it, now do it to all of these phones. And we'll be back with more."

9 posted on 02/22/2016 10:15:00 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

So NOW the government is concerned about catching terrorists. Where the Hell were they when they could have stopped these people from getting into the country in the first place? Oooh, but that would be “profiling” don’cha know.


10 posted on 02/22/2016 10:16:49 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: hasb3an

Stay strong Apple


11 posted on 02/22/2016 10:20:17 AM PST by svcw (An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man is a subject)
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To: dfwgator

I remember after San Bernadino an article about a neighbor of the killers who frequently saw him and others bringing packages in at all times of day but was afraid to report to the police for fear of being branded a racist.


12 posted on 02/22/2016 10:20:23 AM PST by InvisibleChurch
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To: Sacajaweau
Why? Because your privacy us protected?
San Bernidino county screw up, not Apple.
13 posted on 02/22/2016 10:21:53 AM PST by svcw (An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man is a subject)
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To: hasb3an

MacAffee said he’d hack the phone for free, but that’s not what the government wants

They want the encryption back door so they can spy on everybody with an iPhone... it’s not just this one terrorist, MacAffee called their bluff

And the great point he made is such a back door would undoubtably be hacked by the Russians, Chinese, and pretty much anybody else willing to make the effort

Sounds like the author here is merely apologizing for Trump’s ludicrous statements and position on this topic


14 posted on 02/22/2016 10:29:57 AM PST by Reaganite Republican (FREEDOM - OPPORTUNITY - PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY)
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This is to establish a precedence. Apple should hold out until a warrant is handed to them.

They [the FBI] I believe has all the information from the phone. So you’re right, it’s about ego. But it’s about the DOJ ego.


15 posted on 02/22/2016 10:31:48 AM PST by Fhios (circa 2016: Truth will be outlawed unless pre-approved.)
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To: clee1

WIthout know all the facts, I understand the Feds aren’t satisfied with that solution.


16 posted on 02/22/2016 10:32:38 AM PST by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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To: Sacajaweau

“I’ll never, never buy any apple product.

I’ll buy extra.


17 posted on 02/22/2016 10:32:52 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (BREAKING.... Vulgarian Resistance begins attack on the GOPe Death Star.....)
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To: Yo-Yo

And if they have a warrant based on probable cause, like this case, whats the issue? I don’t think they should hand over the crypto key to the feds but they sure could help get the info out of the damn thing


18 posted on 02/22/2016 10:33:36 AM PST by enraged
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To: samtheman

That’s what they offered.
The Feds said no.


19 posted on 02/22/2016 10:33:49 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: hasb3an

Here’s my writ for a drug dealer’s phone, and evidence that Apple has done it before. Open it. Here’s the phone of a civil dissident in China, do the same. Here’s the phone of a woman caught driving in Saudi Arabia, open it. Here’s the phone of a Christian in Afghanistan, unlock it.

Once done, it will have to be always done.

Moreso, what really is the material difference between this and ordering a baker to make a cake? Are there other areas of the RFP process that should also be handled by judicial writ?

And does this writ give immunity to Apple against lawsuits for false advertising saying that Apple claimed these phones were secure than deliberately made them less so?

There are thousands of issues clouding this whole debate. At the core, the perennial question of trading temporary security at the cost of liberty. Does opening the San Bernardino County owned phone of the husband of a Pakistani terrorist justify all?

I don’t think so. I doubt that there is any relevant data available on that phone.


20 posted on 02/22/2016 10:36:14 AM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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