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If outsourcing is okay, why it Trump telling his supporters that it is bad?
1 posted on 03/05/2016 8:09:10 AM PST by syriacus
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2 posted on 03/05/2016 8:10:58 AM PST by BobL (Who cares? He's going to build a wall and stop this invasion.)
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"In the long run, we are all dead."

I wonder how long this joker's "long run" is.

3 posted on 03/05/2016 8:12:20 AM PST by SAJ
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I'm a Trump supporter, but I reject that entire argument. By that argument, there is nothing wrong with a government tax rate of, say, 90%. Because the government would then "funnel more into the economy".

Nope. Not buying it.

4 posted on 03/05/2016 8:14:16 AM PST by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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From 2004? The data is in now. Trump always said he believed in free trade. We don’t have free trade. We have unilateral disarmament.


5 posted on 03/05/2016 8:14:19 AM PST by major-pelham
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Let me guess. You are a Cruzbot.

Are you a snake handler too?


6 posted on 03/05/2016 8:14:31 AM PST by tennmountainman ("Prophet Mountainman" Predicter Of All Things RINO...for a small pittance)
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because he’s such a genius, that they will trust that he is playing two games at once and has a yuge!! secret plan behind all the double talk.


7 posted on 03/05/2016 8:14:49 AM PST by dp0622
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Because it’s all about him, you know. Didn’t you see how the Chinese and Mexicans forced him to make his clothing in their countries by devaluing their currency? /s/


8 posted on 03/05/2016 8:15:10 AM PST by mak5
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Given our laws and economic environment in 2005, he was correct from a business owner’s point of view.

That should be easy to understand. What is good for business owners isn’t always good for the USA.

The problem is that we have to create laws that are good for the American worker. As Trump has said, America doesn’t win anymore. We don’t win because of what politicians have been doing inside the beltway.


9 posted on 03/05/2016 8:16:01 AM PST by boycott (--s)
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Quoting Trump is not fair. It’s considered lying.


12 posted on 03/05/2016 8:17:35 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution. Go Cruz.)
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‘Some” outsourcing is good for jobs.
BUT the profits have to come back and be reinvested HERE.

The government prevents that with high taxes on any returned funds.
I think the money companies hold overseas is in the trillions.


14 posted on 03/05/2016 8:18:09 AM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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First of all, this was written in 2005.

Second he is addressing the IT industry, have things changed in the industry in the last 11 years, you bet.

Third, technology in its advances have replace many menial jobs and therefore putting people out of work but increasing profits and allowing companies to invest in other areas that improve life as a whole.

It’s just the way it is, the only solution is to limit the application of certain technologies, I don’t see that happening.


15 posted on 03/05/2016 8:18:31 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of Socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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Wow.


18 posted on 03/05/2016 8:23:49 AM PST by magellan
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2006 was a far different world than 2016.

In 2006 when the American economy was booming and there was a jobs bonanza, do you think Americans cared about outsourcing?

Now in 2016 when Obama has brought America to a near collapse, do you think Americans care about outsourcing?

By 2020 when President Trump will have created an economic boom and a jobs bonanza, so you think Americans will care about outsourcing?

Only losers and loners would answer yes to all the above except for 2016.


20 posted on 03/05/2016 8:26:06 AM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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I’ll take the bait. The Donald writes:

“but if a company’s only means of survival is by farming jobs outside its walls, then sometimes it’s a necessary step. The other option might be to close its doors for good.”

These conditions arrive PRECISELY because of unfair trade practices and hostile business environment in USA the very things that Trump wants to correct! Our businesses can’t compete right now. You will also take note that farming out of jobs was not presented as a good thing but as a last resort instead of going out of business. Not exactly an endorsement.


21 posted on 03/05/2016 8:26:36 AM PST by McCarthysGhost (We need to repeal and replace the Republican Party)
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In 2004 when this was written, Ted was working in the Bush FTC implementing “free trade” for the Bush’s.

Your point again?


23 posted on 03/05/2016 8:31:34 AM PST by datura (Proud Infidel)
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The other side of the equation would be reciprocation by building u.s. plants from foreign companies. They don’t because of the tax laws, not to mention unfair trading practices.

I’m for competition but the playing field is not fair and the tax code puts us back the 10 yard line


25 posted on 03/05/2016 8:32:00 AM PST by SueRae (An election like no other..)
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The STEM argument is based on lies.

Two out of three US STEM graduates do not get jobs in their fields of study because those jobs are taken by H1B immigrants who will work for a small fraction of what US graduates need just to pay off their student loans.

28 posted on 03/05/2016 8:36:25 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it." --Samuel Clemens)
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I think what is usually missing from discussions about outsourcing is just exactly *why* is the outsourcing happening.

IMO, ultimately, cheap labor alone is only a small component now.

-EPA and its war on American companies actually manufacturing goods
-federal regulations by a myriad of agencies that are so anti commerce and punitive as to make starting and conducting business a losing proposition
-corrupt labor unions and practices that are fully supported by the federal government
-A declining quality of the US labor force that actually makes the quality of labor in some other countries competitive from a quality point of view, not just cost.
-does anyone really believe that all our little traumatized snowflakes with degrees in gender studies and taco science (for real course at UK) are going to provide any productivity in the years to come?


31 posted on 03/05/2016 8:39:54 AM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s, you weren't really there....)
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I know this is true because the US has so many more high-paying manufacturing and other jobs since outsourcing started.

Who makes up this nonsense? Who believes it?

40 posted on 03/05/2016 9:01:28 AM PST by grania
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The Law of Comparative Advantage held fast for centuries, and America would not have propsered if it hadn’t. But Ricardo based his argument on an assumed immobility of capital, and after technology removed those barriers, it needs to be re-considered. Most economists now think in terms of competitive advantage rather than comparative advantage, which for example means, the US competetes through increased productivity and innovation rather than cost by encouraging Asia to produce the world’s supply of microchips but having firms in the US who are the best at applying them to create high=value solutions. Apple would be an example of this, where the company creates much greater value for it’s shareholders by outsourcing non-core activities like electronic assembly.

What Trump calls “smart trade” provides an incentive for companies like Apple to outsource that work to US companies at a competitive price.


42 posted on 03/05/2016 9:03:19 AM PST by bigbob ("Victorious warriors win first and then go to war" Sun Tzu.)
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