“Has God Abandoned America?”
Not at all.
He gave us Trump, but we need to do something too: vote for him.
Is? I haven't seen Lloyd around these parts in years and years.
So, I don’t vote for Trump I’m not a Christian. I don’t vote for Cruz, I’m not a Christian. I don’t vote, I’m not a Christian. Got it.
Cruz is an opportunist, who thought that playing a conservative will get him the R nomination and subsequently the presidency.
If God can make the Israelite nation "great again" using an enemy, Iranian, Gentile, non-Christian, I'm betting he could "make American great again" with the Trumpster.
I mean they both are really weird, right? Anyone that wants to president in 2016 is going to have something wrong with them. I don’t dig either of these stiffs. I buy some of the arguments on both sides. Is there anyone else out in Freeper land that thinks both of these guys are kind of way off? I would still vote for either, with equal nausea I suppose.
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It is my conclusion now that a person cannot be a Christian. and a Democrat at the same time and I tell them so. Not keeping my mouth shut any longer. And a lot of Republicans are not any better. I’ve had them tell me that the abortion question is not important. It’s all about the economy. Loved it when Cruz pointed out in one of the debates that the social issue ARE economic issues. Wish he would do that more often.
As are you and I. Yet we support different candidates and we both feel right with our choice. That someone is a Freeper does not necessarily mean they are right. It does I think mean they care, but can still be behind the wrong guy.
Your comment that he is a Freeper sounds a bit like others should just change their opinion because of that. I accept that he and you support Cruz. I am a Christian and a conservative and definitely don’t support Cruz. Even Christians and conservatives can see the candidates in a different light.
Thanks 2ndDivisionVet.
To guilt those whose preference is different is awful.
Haven’t heard Cruz mention God the past few weeks. It’s a sneak preview to what he will sound like if he gets the nomination. Everything you love about the guy will go down the memory hole.
History chronicles that people have suffered severely when ruled by leaders who believe there is no power above theirs. “When the righteous thrive, the people rejoice; when the wicked rule, the people groan.” Proverbs 29:2”
I love the two quotes from scripture. How very true.
How strange that this forum, which was established to facilitate the exchange of ideas, and be a clearing house for supporting conservative ideals, has devolved to a state of mud slinging between those who support one candidate or another. How much of this mud slinging is from those who are not really conservative, but who in there heart want to destroy this forum?
We are now faced with an upcoming convention that may or may not be a contested convention. Some act like this has never happened in the past.
I get the feeling that there are those who post, who would really like to destroy the Republican Party. They don't care if this happens. They only care about punishing elected conservatives for not succeeding under the present makeup of Congress. They feel that all should be punished. But they are aiming at the conservatives. They accuse conservatives of being GOPe. While this is happening, the socialist are going about their business as usual, and trying to be the biggest Santa Clause in the room. They also seem intent upon destroying our nation.
With this I fear that a crisis of monumental proportions is being engineered for our Republic. We are looking more and more like the conditions in Germany, before Hitler came to power.
Laws aren't enforced. The President imposes his own version of laws by Executive Order, those who stand for truth are indicted (the person who exposed Planned Parenthood). The Democrat political elite break the law with impunity (Holder, Clinton etc.). People are looking for a “strong man”.
We are being faced with a looming economic collapse. We are faced with illegal aliens, intent upon harm, flooding our country across open borders, and the importation of those who do not share the nation's Judeo Christian values, upon which our Republic was established. Once elected, will the the person elected be able to bring our country out of this crisis?
What prevents Obama from declaring a crisis, imposing marshal law, suspending the Constitution, and declaring himself dictator for life?
It is a subtle truth that 'that which you resist, persists.' It's not easy to apply, but it applies here.
This insidious quest coming to an end is central to the longevity of America. However, conservatives have fought it and fought it and fought it. The very fight increases the energy on the other side.
St. Augustine said "whatever is exposed to the light, itself becomes the light."
I caution those who think Cruz will be effective by condemning. As with everything with Cruz ... it looks good on paper. Whether it is effective, or even makes things worse ... doesn't look so good.
If we go with St. Augustine here for a moment, then the candidate who has revealed the evil in the system rather than fought it is more likely to do more good for this Christian cause, and frankly it's all of mankind's cause.
In Cruz, you have a dark warrior, and frankly a large percentage of the nation, Christians included, may not question whether his stances are wrong - may not think his specific stances are worse than Trumps, but whether his mere being against evil (or claiming to be, jury's out for me ... but even if sincere) will actually cause a change - or just provide a solid grip for the bad guys. Physical wars respond to fighting, force. Spiritual enemies not so - they respond to subtler truths, sometimes truths that appear paradoxical, or even reversed - they aren't reversed, and they aren't paradoxical ... they just appear that way because our viewpoint is affected, we have dust on our eyes.
They respond to things that appear to have nothing to do with them.
If America has been getting worse and worse, then there comes a time to ask 'is what you're doing to try to stop it actually making it worse.'
Along those lines, I would recommend considering the candidate not who fights specifically against something, but the one who's been effective at exposing the truth, exposing the evil, and because of that the evil has shrunk a little, receded a little.
Cruz says he fights against the Washington Cartel. But who cares? Trump has actually exposed it. Cruz says he fights immigration. But who cares? Trump singlehandedly changed the conversation and made it acceptable to be for keeping-them-out. Cruz will carpet bomb the terrorists. Trump made it acceptable to to say 'first, let's keep them out'. Trump has changed the country in 6 months, where it counts, for good, more than any politician since Reagan. He's already shifted it, and that can't be undone. He didn't life a finger to do it.
What binds a country into evil is its unspoken, unknowingly accepted lies. You don't 'fight a lie', you expose it. Cruz fights, Trump exposes.
I'll be voting for Donald Trump in November, and I would argue so would St. Augustine - because he would have wanted a more Christian nation in fact, not in argument or in righteousness-against-evil or resistance to evil. Resistance creates persistence. The nation requires sunlight, exposure, and in that light, evil retreats like mold, no more action is necessary.
Cruz? He's a mold scrubber. Have you ever tried to scrub mold off the side of a house? You can't. Hard worker, says a lot against mold! But scrubbing mold does nothing. Yet even sunlight, which doesn't curse the mold, eliminates it merely by it's present. It exposes and removes darkness, which in the case of our country, is lies.
Who, so far, more by his presence rather than his actions and fighting and arguing, has exposed and killed more mold?
I think we know that one. And with all of Cruz's cleverness and machinations and lawyer education ... which he employs to conjure delegates not backed by actual votes of American's ... he operates in the dark. That's where mold grows!
So, me and St. Augustine - we're going with Trump. I don't particularly like him nor dislike him. I have just observed that he has had the same effect on the mold in this church that sunlight has. Cruz? Screaming scrubbing preacher, same mold, probably just pushing it further into the wood.
God abandoning America? Is that even a Christian concept?
Geez. I hope not. I’d like to think that most Americans believe in God and seek His help in ending the corruption and marxist influence that overwhelms us.
Yes, God has abandoned America. The wife and I watched a DVD recently about why America is not mentioned in the Bible during end times and the Scriptural and evidentiary conclusion was that America will be either gone or so weak that it makes no difference anymore in the world. It is probably due to the societal decay and greed and ever increasing abandonment of God by our country.
We saw Pastor Robert Jeffress speaking on Bill O’Reilly tonight and his rationalizing Christian support for Trump. Jeffress is either bipolar or Scriptural principles mean nothing to him except something to yap about on Sunday mornings in church and ignore the rest of the time. For example, God warns us not to make entangling commitments with non-believers, He warns us about the self-prideful, He warns us about men who lust after money and fame, He warns us about liars and coveters and adulterers and those who worship strange gods and worldly things and those who respect only themselves and don’t humble themselves before Almighty God etc. So why shouldn’t God abandon America if Christians support those who do so to be our elected leaders? God told us that if a people will change their ways and turn their backs on sinful behavior and humble themselves towards Him for Grace and guidance that He will heal their land.
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Ly‘in Ted is a fake Christian, deceitfull, corrupt, cheating Canandian who is not eligible to be President.
Folks wanted a “black” man as president, so they looked past all of his faults, and ignored the fact his past is sealed from scutiny.
Exactly the same senario we see with Ted! Folks are so hungry for a Conservative they refuse to evaluate Ted from a common sense point of view
amen to this post. it is amazing to me that people that profess their belief in Jesus Christ would also advocate for a guy that AT BEST, thinks killing babies isn’t important, and at worst, advocates for it (which trump does by lifting up PP).
Trump also wants to promote and support the gay agenda. He’s said it himself.
There is so much deception in the world. God specifically warns us to NOT be deceived. Meaning we have to take a proactive stance against being lied to and we have to compare it to God’s Word for it’s truthfulness.