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MSU Drops Algebra From Graduation Requirements
Michigan Capitol Confidential ^ | 7/19/2016 | Derek Draplin

Posted on 07/20/2016 12:30:30 PM PDT by MichCapCon

Michigan State University is the latest public university to tweak its general education curriculum, favoring quantitative courses over traditional math courses.

The math requirement can now be fulfilled by taking two “quantitative learning” classes as an alternative, though students can choose algebra and one quantitative course, the Lansing State Journal reports.

“The one-size-fits-all college algebra approach wasn’t working for all students,” Vince Melfi, an associate professor of statistics, told the Lansing State Journal.

Previously, MSU’s basic math graduation requirement for most students included an algebra class. Students could also test out of the requirement or use transfer credit.

MSU administrators argue that the quantitative learning courses will allow students to better understand math’s real-life functions.

“An important part of these courses is to go beyond just manipulating symbols on a page and coming up with the right answer, and to reflect on what those answers mean in a specific context,” Melfi said, according to Inside Higher Ed. For example, an understanding of probability would prepare students for daily tasks such as understanding a New York Times article on medicine, Inside Higher Ed notes.

“We’re trying to present mathematics in a way that makes it more accessible and understandable,” Melfi said. “Much of mathematics was developed in order to understand the real world. When students are encountering questions in their personal or professional lives, they should be thinking about mathematics and quantitative reasoning as tools they might use.”

Last month, Wayne State University dropped its university-wide mathematics requirement, and a committee proposed adding a required three-credit-hour diversity course to the general education curriculum.

The university cited adequate high school mathematics requirements as a reason for the curriculum change. "This decision was made largely because the current (math) requirement is at a level already required by most high school mathematics curriculum," WSU said.

According to Inside Higher Ed, Michigan State’s Provost Doug Estry said the change at his university will mostly affect students who take majors outside of science, technology, engineering and mathematics (STEM).

Others noted that the new quantitative requirement might leave students ill-prepared if they take advanced math courses later in their college careers.

“There is some hazard of the student having gotten an inaccurate picture of what advanced mathematics might be like,” Thomas Barr of the American Mathematical Society, who supports MSU’s new policy, told Inside Higher Ed. “But that’s not a deep concern, because I believe the sort of student who wants to go on into advanced mathematics will recognize it early on. And if they really have an inclination for that, they’ll be able to deal with that transition.”

In the 2015-16 fiscal year, MSU received $268.3 million — 21.2 percent of its revenues — from Michigan taxpayers as state aid. Tuition for in-state undergraduate students is $14,880 in 2016-17, according to MSU’s financial aid office.

The university did not respond to a request for comment.


TOPICS: Education
KEYWORDS: college; dumbdown
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To: MichCapCon

that’s just fine.
public universities are largely just baby sitting centres for rich spoiled brats to get indoctrinated by commies and IslamoNazi operatives. They can then go on the dole....and play computer games the rest of their lives in their mamas’ basements.

and
American businesses and industry will continue to import workers from Communist China and India who HAVE most of the college training needed to actually DO THE WORK

everyone ends up happy, right?


21 posted on 07/20/2016 12:43:23 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born. They're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero)
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To: MichCapCon
I knew it was a high school all along..M GO BLUE
22 posted on 07/20/2016 12:44:09 PM PDT by Paul46360
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To: FreedomPoster

Why does a LBGT, women’s or black studies major need algebra? What they need is graphic arts to make cool posters.


23 posted on 07/20/2016 12:45:19 PM PDT by D Rider
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To: MichCapCon

Our son is a teachers aid at a state college out west. The class assignment was to “write two paragraphs and use proper punctuation and spelling”.
84% of the students failed.


24 posted on 07/20/2016 12:46:29 PM PDT by Hornet22
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To: Mr. K

I can count to 21 if I’m naked. Does that get me a masters?


25 posted on 07/20/2016 12:46:44 PM PDT by Gamecock (There is always one more idiot than you counted on.)
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To: TexasRepublic

Yes you do, if your servicing the robots that will soon be serving the crap!


26 posted on 07/20/2016 12:47:25 PM PDT by phs3 (FUBO)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Algebra was the only F I ever made in K-12 and college. It was in 11th grade. The big killer was my arthritic chicken scratch writing.

My sister thinks algebra, calc, trig and the like as comically simple and burns right through problems.

When it came to accounting, I was very good at working them. My sister would go into meltdowns sometimes.


27 posted on 07/20/2016 12:48:25 PM PDT by wally_bert (I didn't get where I am today by selling ice cream tasting of bookends, pumice stone & West Germany)
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To: MichCapCon

X = 0


28 posted on 07/20/2016 12:50:16 PM PDT by bgill (From the CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: MichCapCon

29 posted on 07/20/2016 12:50:32 PM PDT by oblomov (We have passed the point where "law," properly speaking, has any further application. - C. Thomas)
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To: poobear

And she is right.
You should be commended for helping your daughter to reach this level.
College Engineering classes are tough!


30 posted on 07/20/2016 12:56:38 PM PDT by Zathras
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To: Mr. K

Many trades require strong math skills. Would you want a carpenter who couldn’t do algebra?


31 posted on 07/20/2016 12:56:49 PM PDT by Hieronymus ( (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G. K. Chesterton))
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To: forgotten man
2 + 2 = whatever, depending on your culture.

Just outside of Pappeete Tahiti there is a school called the 2+2=4 school. The donor named it that way because he wanted the graduates to at least know one thing for sure. True.

32 posted on 07/20/2016 12:58:03 PM PDT by Don Corleone (Oil the gun, eat the cannolis, take it to the mattress.)
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To: oblomov

Pies are round.


33 posted on 07/20/2016 12:58:19 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: MichCapCon
One extreme leads to another. The insanity for twenty (or so) years was that everyone had to take Algebra 1 and Geometry in HS, so they'd be prepared for college. The result was watered down Algebra classes and silly stuff like 90 minute Algebra classes that drove students (and teachers) nuts.

So the kiddies all went to college and a real high percentage are so bad in math that they can't factor a quadratic unless it's a group exercise with a multiple choice answer.

What's the least logical answer? Rather than getting high schools back to teaching functional math, for college and non-college tracts, drop the math requirement all together.

It's an Alice in Wonderland world, folks. Crazy assumptions lead you down the path to crazy conclusions.

34 posted on 07/20/2016 12:59:09 PM PDT by grania
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To: Hieronymus

Many don’t


35 posted on 07/20/2016 1:01:34 PM PDT by Mr. K (Trump will win NY state - choke on that HilLIARy)
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To: FreedomPoster

Back when I took College Algebra, it was like HS Algebra II.


36 posted on 07/20/2016 1:02:25 PM PDT by greeneyes
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To: MichCapCon

The university cited adequate high school mathematics requirements as a reason for the curriculum change. “This decision was made largely because the current (math) requirement is at a level already required by most high school mathematics curriculum,” WSU said.

I don’t think so. Colleges have been saying incoming freshmen are ill prepared for college and need remedial work in math.


37 posted on 07/20/2016 1:03:07 PM PDT by kalee
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To: Mr. K

I don’t use trig or calculus every day, but it seems that I use algebra every day. I think algebraically I guess. Had a great algebra teacher in seventh grade accelerated math back in ‘60. Never took algebra again and it is still stuck somewhere in the back of my head. Calculus, not so much.


38 posted on 07/20/2016 1:07:06 PM PDT by KC Burke (Consider all of my posts as first drafts. (Apologies to L. Niven))
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To: Mr. K
Go to a trade school. Welders make good money.

I actually think tradesmen (welders, carpenters, masons etc) have an instinctive understanding of math already. A house framer knows a heck of a lot more about algebra than a lawyer or doctor.

They just don't give it a fancy name.

39 posted on 07/20/2016 1:10:59 PM PDT by usurper (Liberals GET OFF MY LAWN)
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To: Mr. K

The world needs ditchdiggers too.


40 posted on 07/20/2016 1:11:40 PM PDT by dfwgator
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