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What Did Trump Really Say About Cruz' Wife and Father?

Posted on 07/21/2016 1:34:50 PM PDT by chaosagent

What Did Trump Really Say About Cruz' Wife and Father?


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: 2016gopprimary; craponfr; cruz; heidi; rafael; trump; wherehaveyoubeen
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To: LucyT; Fred Nerks

Cruz is finished. I doubt that he will be able to hold his Senate seat in 2018.

Cruz is so pished that Trump has the spice on him, his father and his mistresses. This is all stuff that Rubio bought and paid partially for. When Rubio would not pay the detective in full, he sold the info to Trump.

It was a Yuge mistake for Cruz to buy the copyright of Melania’s semi nude photo from George magazine and have it published through Carly Fiorina’s PAC. Trump unloaded on Cruz then, both barrels. Everyone knows this at the convention. Cruz is trying to get his back, very sour grapes. But he did it to himself, just like he did it to himself at the convention.

Cruz can hand it out but cannot take it, and both the fathers radicalism, and Cruz’s philandering x8 will prevent him from holding any higher office.

Cruz is done. Lyin’ Ted.


101 posted on 07/22/2016 3:26:29 AM PDT by Candor7 ( Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Candor7

With the status of his US natural-born citizenship under a cloud, I wonder if he wasn’t supposed to run and win as a foil for the undocumented potus...then the score would be settled. Both parties could boast they have a non-natural born pResident.
Makes the question moot. Over and done with, nothing to see here, move along...

Get what I mean?


102 posted on 07/22/2016 4:25:24 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

thank you so much for that detail....I may follow up with questions.


103 posted on 07/22/2016 4:52:42 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

those New Orleans photos of Oswald and the others doing leaflets...those are not new at all. They are very well known among us JFK conspiracy enthusiasts.

What is “new” is naming Rafeal in them (and by new, I mean in the last 5 years). The figure that sure looks like Rafeal was always “unidentified”.

A fascinating dynamic in all of this is how Ted became more a “Reagan conservative” and not a “Bush Republican” once he left the administration. So I guess his falling out with the Bush people is real, and likely the story that they didn’t like his arrogance is also real.

But interesting that the Bushes also have lost control over the next generation of CIA assets. It seems the threads that connect everyone are wearing out....which comports with other observations. Just like they are losing political muscle in the above ground political world. Sure Jeb raised the money...but his campaign? LOL.


104 posted on 07/22/2016 5:05:01 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: HarleyLady27

The horse is dead, you can stop beating it now.


105 posted on 07/22/2016 7:39:30 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: ConservativeDude

Yes, the ties that bind have dwindled over time. It’s been far too long since GHWB had unfettered access and many of the key players have since retired or passed. Their replacements are not necessarily cooperative or acting in accordance with the understandings of prior administrations.

Specific to Rafael Cruz: due to the ongoing JFK research and newer miscellaneous testimonies revealed over time, his name has linked him to others involved and with particular activities.

And while he may have been “unidentifiable” to the public, all of these players have always been automatically identifiable to the agency.

Ted: he likely felt entitled to be Attorney General under the Bush Administration and was disillusioned with being just another WH attorney. The negative feelings towards Cruz from coworkers within the Bush Administration are quite real and public-on the record. Ted’s unbounded political ambition is the driving force behind his ‘constitutional conservative christian’ route. Besides, he knew he would have to differentiate himself from Jeb.

Had Trump not run or president, there is a very strong chance that Jeb would have prevailed. No one else would have had the nerve to challenge Bush and completely knock him out of the race. Certainly not Ted. There was still quite a bit of Bush influence around.

Note that the very same corrupted operatives in Maine that cheated for an impossible Cruz ‘win’ would have stolen their state for Jeb. Bush would have had his essential early caucus win and been well underway. That must have been a painful phone call to make - best thought of as a salvage operation. Steal it for Cruz.


106 posted on 07/22/2016 8:40:53 AM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

great analysis.

I wonder what the relationship b/w Rafeal and Guy Bannister is/was?

All things considered....Rafeal should consider himself lucky to be alive.


107 posted on 07/22/2016 9:09:46 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: Mr Apple; LucyT

“Amazing info! Thank you LucyT.”

Yeah, Lucky kinda sorta ROCKS : )


108 posted on 07/22/2016 9:21:41 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: Fred Nerks

Get what I mean?>>>>>>>>>>>>

Absolutely, and it would have brought the nation beyond the brink of chaos, which is what the left wants very badly.

You have a very interesting mind, Fred.


109 posted on 07/22/2016 10:20:20 AM PDT by Candor7 ( Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Lent

Speaking of cultists, I haven’t seen such a cult following such as exists for Trump since, well, Obama. Name one thing that Cruz said in his speech that you abhor. I’ll bet you can’t, but you hate him anyway. Pure folly.


110 posted on 07/22/2016 10:28:02 AM PDT by alstewartfan (I sit here by the banks of the Rhine Dipping my feet in the cold stream of time. 1934 by Al Stewart)
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To: Lent

OK, it’s honorable to give thousands to the Clintons, Reid and Schumer, among dozens of other leftists. I see your point! (goes off goose-stepping)
BTW, Pal, I’m voting for the jerk against Hillary, but I know plenty of others who are not b/c of Trump’s punk attitude toward Cruz. This morning, Trump’s comments about Cruz were an act of political stupidity. Disgraceful per norm.


111 posted on 07/22/2016 10:32:48 AM PDT by alstewartfan (I sit here by the banks of the Rhine Dipping my feet in the cold stream of time. 1934 by Al Stewart)
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To: alstewartfan

I don’t abhor anything that Ted Cruz says. I agree with almost all of it.

I think he has a fatally defective presentation. And I don’t believe he would follow through on anything important on the small chance he should get elected.

But I agree with him often.


112 posted on 07/22/2016 10:33:38 AM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: Ted Grant

I don’t agree, but that’s a fair critique, Ted.


113 posted on 07/22/2016 10:38:46 AM PDT by alstewartfan (I sit here by the banks of the Rhine Dipping my feet in the cold stream of time. 1934 by Al Stewart)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
REALLY? That bad? Your family is devoid of long term memories?

You're asking the son to know where his father was seven years before the son was born. Sure someone in the family could probably say with some degree of certainty but not his children. I can assure you that my brother has no better idea than I do. Ask me the whereabouts of my father from about when I turned four onward and I could tell you.

Let's assume for a second that your conspiracy ideas have some merit and Raphael Cruz was a CIA operative (which I don't think is that far-fetched) and/or involved in the JFK assassination (which I think is far-fetched). What do you think that he would have told his son? If the topic was ever raised (and Raphael would have never raised it), Ted and the rest of the family would have been told the alibi story. Ted could only tell you what he had been told.

Let’s get real and quit sympathizing with the devil.

Merely pointing out the lack of logic in asking a son about his father's whereabouts seven years before the son was born. Ask Raphael, he is still alive and lucid. You make it sound sinister that Ted hasn't volunteered some information of which he would have no first-hand knowledge. At best, the information would be hearsay and most likely just the cover story anyway if your conspiracy theories are true.

114 posted on 07/22/2016 10:42:39 AM PDT by CommerceComet (Hillary: A unique blend of incompetence and corruption.)
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To: Romans Nine
I’m for Trump but enough of the horseshit about Cruz that ship has sailed.

Not if his little tantrum the other night causes a lot of write-in or 3rd party votes, it hasn't. While it doesn't look like that today, clearly that was his plan going in. He needs to be watched very carefully going forward so he doesn't remain an agent provacateur like Lyndon LaRouche or even a treasonist in decades to come.

115 posted on 07/22/2016 11:40:01 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (We will no longer surrender this country to the false song of globalism. --Donald Trump)
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To: chaosagent
“Yes, but he’s our asshole!”

You beat me to it!

116 posted on 07/22/2016 11:44:33 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (We will no longer surrender this country to the false song of globalism. --Donald Trump)
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To: BenLurkin
“Look at that face. Would anyone vote for that?”

So you're saying that Hillary would be preferable to a seasoned cage fighter up against vicious terrorists and dictators and shrewd financial manipulators around the world? O. K.

117 posted on 07/22/2016 11:46:03 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (We will no longer surrender this country to the false song of globalism. --Donald Trump)
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To: dp0622
I didn’t know Cruz’ wife was so, well, not quite attractive

Who was it who said, "After age 40, a person's soul is on their face."

118 posted on 07/22/2016 11:48:29 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (We will no longer surrender this country to the false song of globalism. --Donald Trump)
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To: CommerceComet

But how is it an ‘insult’?


Perhaps, Cruz considers the entire situation from the posting of an unflattering picture of his wife to the threat of exposure of something as insulting.

However, that wasn’t my point. It cannot be inferred from someone’s concern about being threatened with exposure that he or she has something to hide. No one would want to see their name dragged through the mud with slander, even if the slanderous statements can be proven to be slander. Such concern is a perfectly rational response from even someone who has nothing to hide.


If that’s all it takes for Cruz to break his pledge and pitch a hissy fit, then he’s not temperamentally fit to be President anyway.


119 posted on 07/22/2016 2:06:32 PM PDT by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: CommerceComet

Um... They seem to have a pretty close father/son relationship, Ted and Rafael. Ted knows the level of his father’s involvement. It would be naive to believe that Ted was unaware of his father’s actual family history and origins from Cuba to America and to other countries, including his very own birth place- Calgary.

Ted’s complicity with a tale of lies prior to his birth does reflect damagingly upon him as a presidential candidate. He is ineligible. He is a (R) redo of BHO. Lies of both omission and commission have surrounded his NBC status. His foundation and upbringing are suspect. His parents were Canadian citizens and documented as such. He was born abroad and his only thread to an NBC was an ex-pat Mother.

BTW, they aren’t my personal conspiracy theories. Just observations. R. Cruz’s involvement is much more than one old ‘leafletting’ film. Cruz’s name is tied to archives and reports by past JFK researchers. He was photographed in other locations besides N.O. with subversive groups. It is... what it is -reality.

Cruz has no where to hide. If there was no basis of truth in the N.E. expose’, Cruz would have sued them for defamation of character rather than attacking Trump. And Cruz would have battled on w his globalist support- losing elections while stealing the delegates.

Instead, Ted declares that the Cruz/LHO connection to be a falsehood and smear. He jumped out of the race after pledging to the world he would fight and he had a ton of money & support to continue.

Ted was told to give it up. So what did his preacher Fr. Cruz say?..... crickets.

Cruz lamely poses as the victim with feigned outrage because his TRUE family history has leaked out. Cruz’s Cuban tales have also been documented false by his peers of that era. He is a proven liar. Perhaps when Trump is President, he can officially release the thousands of JFK documents still protected under the guise of national security. Won’t that be revealing!

Just wondering if Rafael USED -seduced Ted’s mom because his then current wife, Julia, w two infant girls had no interest in eloping to Canada. And when the coast was finally clear, he deserted Eleanor with his child on foreign Canadian soil. Meanwhile, the same preacher is holding onto to that same old Canadian passport for another 35 more years for some odd reason.


120 posted on 07/22/2016 4:57:19 PM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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