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US Defense Threat Reduction Agency Releases LENR Report (Cold Fusion 'Real and Nuclear')
E-Cat World ^ | Sep 4, 2016

Posted on 09/04/2016 12:33:41 PM PDT by Normandy

Thanks to Joseph J for posting about a report that has been published by the US Defense Threat Reduction Agency (DTRA) titled “Investigation of Nano-Nuclear Reactions in Condensed Matter”. The report is written by Pamela Mosier-Boss of SPAWAR Systems Center Pacific, Lawrence Forsely of JWK International and Patrick K. McDaniel of the University of New Mexico.

According to Wikipedia the DTRA “is an agency within the United States Department of Defense and is the official Combat Support Agency for countering weapons of mass destruction (chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear, and high explosives). DTRA’s main functions are threat reduction, threat control, combat support, and technology development. The agency is headquartered in Fort Belvoir, Virginia”

It is not clear to me exactly when the report was written, but the final page of the document shows a form which shows when various approvals have been given. The most recent references listed in the report are from 2012, so it appears that it has been circulating within the agency for a few years prior to this release. This paper was given approval for public release on Jun 7 2016 by the Public Affairs department of the DTRA.

The report itself is very lengthy and from a cursory reading is an analysis of the scientific evidence for nuclear reactions occurring in the metal lattice in LENR systems. The report focuses on the palladium-deuterium systems which were introduced in 1989 by Pons and Fleischmann.

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TOPICS: Science; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: coldfusion; dtra; dumbass; lenr
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

The FR threads pronouncing Rossi had sold thousands of his devices was hilarious!

Heck, by now we should have them in service all over the place.


61 posted on 09/04/2016 4:50:45 PM PDT by CodeToad (Islam should be banned and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: Lazamataz

“LENR will cut heating and cooling costs across the world.”

A LENR powers my John Deere and my moped. Honest.


62 posted on 09/04/2016 4:51:22 PM PDT by CodeToad (Islam should be banned and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

No argument from me on that!
I am just trying to understand the comment about “friction”.


63 posted on 09/04/2016 4:56:08 PM PDT by Reily
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To: PapaBear3625

We’re going to find out. The first thing I’m going to do on Tuesday is print the press-release of this article to a PDF file, send it to dtic.mil, and ask them, “This press release says that you’ve posted this technical report. Why am I not finding it?”

Hopefully by then, prof. McDaniel will have answered up. Maybe somebody fat-fingered the wrong middle initial but how would a person not see that when reviewing their own document? That’s like passing over your name typed “Marc” when it’s “Mark”, how does a person not see that?

Something really sketchy is going on here and I’m going to find out what it is. Personally, I think it’s fraud, waste, and abuse that a person employed by Space and Naval Warfare Systems Command would be working on something like this unless she’s doing it in her spare time. But I guess it really goes to show that overwhelmingly Ph.D.’s get to do whatever they want with little or no supervision. But maybe the question I should really be asking is: does she still work there?


64 posted on 09/04/2016 5:04:59 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: Enchante

Don’t flatter yourself. Just admit you couldn’t comprehend the link or didn’t have the attention span to spend the three minutes to watch it.


65 posted on 09/04/2016 5:10:40 PM PDT by rodguy911 (Go Sarah go! America home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: Normandy
"The US Defense Threat Reduction Agency, part of the Dept. of Defense, releases to the public a report that provides evidence supportive of the LENR or cold fusion phenomenon being a real phenomenon that could potentially have military and commercial uses. "

Uh, could you please post a link to said public report published by the US Defense Threat Reduction Agency?

In the mean time, while I'm waiting for that link so I can read the report, I'm releasing for public publication the following advertisement for the current consumer version of the LENR power plant available for sale to the public AT THIS VERY MOMENT IN TIME:


66 posted on 09/04/2016 5:27:45 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Lazamataz

Believe me, I’d be happy as a clam to be wrong here. Unfortunately, 25 years of talk and no results looks REALLY bad. If you worked for a company and showed that kind of result, you’d be fired and you’d be downright insane to try to use them as a reference.


67 posted on 09/04/2016 5:29:15 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: catnipman

My first question was: why would DTRA be sponsoring this and not the Department of Energy???? Right from the get-go, this has the look of a scammer that has no idea which government agencies do what, so they just Googled a listing of govt. agencies and grabbed onto the first one they saw with “nuclear” in the title.

It reminds me of the time that the X-File UFO types were releasing these groundbreaking warplans against invading aliens that were released by NASA. NASA would release a warplan and not DoD?!?! Also, anybody that released a warplan had better put it through the declassification wickets and it would have to be like 50 years old or they’d be in prison faster than Timothy McVeigh (and be executed just as quick).


68 posted on 09/04/2016 5:40:22 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: rodguy911

I didn’t click on it you spam-bot. Just admit that you are a special kind of a-hole.


69 posted on 09/04/2016 5:47:11 PM PDT by Enchante (Hillary's new campaign slogan: "Guilty as hell, free as a bird!! Laws are for peasants!")
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To: Enchante

what a child LOL!


70 posted on 09/04/2016 5:51:52 PM PDT by rodguy911 (Go Sarah go! America home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: Enchante

Easy, all it is is a You-Tube video. We’ve all got good reasons to be careful but it’s not like it’s a link to Democratic Underground or HotGirls.com or something.


71 posted on 09/04/2016 5:57:46 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: catnipman

Here’s a link to the report: http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/MosierBossinvestigat.pdf

The last page of the PDF gives documentation of it being unclassified earlier this year.


72 posted on 09/04/2016 6:10:33 PM PDT by Normandy
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To: Normandy

The thing that I’m stuck on: why wouldn’t E-Cat just link to the DTRA or dtic.mil website that released it? Even more sketchy: when I search on those two websites, I find NOTHING. They supposedly released it, so where is it?

I am really suspicious of these supposedly government documents that can only be found on non-government websites. This isn’t the first time that E-Cat has pulled that stunt. Can anybody tell me how DIA (Defense Intelligence Agency) would get a project funded for LENR research? That’s like having the Department of Housing & Urban Development research blue whales and dolphins. That makes no sense.


73 posted on 09/04/2016 6:23:02 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

It’s a good question about why the report is not on a DTRA or DoD website — I don’t know the answer. Maybe it will show up in time, or maybe they don’t want too much publicity about the subject.

The paper was uploaded on the LENR-CANR.org website which is basically an archive of papers and reports that deal with LENR/cold fusion and is well known among LENR researchers. I think it’s possible that after it was unclassified and designated free for public distribution, someone at DTRA sent the paper to Jed Rothwell who maintains the LENR-CANR site.

Regarding the DOD involvement, LENR/CF has been of interest in the defense community over the years. For example here’s a video discussing scientists in the US Naval research community’s involvement in cold fusion research —

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxBJjWzlKl0


74 posted on 09/04/2016 6:53:42 PM PDT by Normandy
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

sure but he threw up a random link with no explanation while insulting all Freepers who might not choose to click on it. That is assaholic behavior and I called him on it.


75 posted on 09/04/2016 6:55:43 PM PDT by Enchante (Hillary's new campaign slogan: "Guilty as hell, free as a bird!! Laws are for peasants!")
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To: Normandy

Interesting.

I went right to the conclusion, which is where the beef should be, and following reams of scientific sounding jargon,the conclusion was nothing more than a list of the publicity received by the SSC Pacific in popular, non-scientific publications:

“5.0 CONCLUSIONS

The 23 years of LENR research at SSC Pacific has resulted in 33 publications, 42 presentations/posters/conference proceedings, three technical reports, and one patent. A complete bibliography can be found in Appendix I. Publications and presentations that are relevent, or resulted from, the DTRA funded effort are included in Appendices II and III, respectively.

Between 2005 and 2009, videos of SSC-Pacific LENR representations and experiments have been made and posted in the internet. These videos, along with their URL links, are summarized in Table 5-1.

Table 5-1. Summary of SSC-Pacific LENR videos on the internet.”

And then a whole litany of mentions of LENR in the popular press.

That’s it. The entire “Conclusion” is nothing but a listing of appearance of LENR in the popular press!

Article is complete junk and it’s a perfect example of the out-of-control wasteful spending by the obama administration under the guise of “science”. Looks like obama-administratin LENR science is right down there with the billions spent of fake climate change and global warming “science”.


76 posted on 09/04/2016 8:04:34 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

See my post 76.


77 posted on 09/04/2016 8:06:33 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: SpaceBar
Cold fusion conspiracy theory. Yes, the government wants the only working E-CAT prototype (cat litter not included) so they can put it in a warehouse next to the 500 mpg carbeurator they aquired years ago that we all heard about.

Top. Men.

78 posted on 09/04/2016 8:13:28 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

LENR is art in its’ purest form.


79 posted on 09/05/2016 6:44:51 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Every word the "News Media" prints these days are a lie, including "and" and "the".)
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To: CodeToad
Jesus built my hot rod.
80 posted on 09/05/2016 6:45:48 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Every word the "News Media" prints these days are a lie, including "and" and "the".)
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