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click on the pic for the Lt. Colonel Wendy Rogers smackdown on the Queen of Corruption (length 0:40):
Posted on 11/07/2016 1:50:29 PM PST by tekrat
In an egregious violation of Department of Defense policy, a retired Air Force lieutenant colonel has recorded an ad critical of Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton while appearing to wear a flight suit complete with unit patches and rank insignia. Wendy Rogers is a three-time Republican Congressional candidate in Arizona, and she most recently lost the GOP primary in the state’s 1st Congressional District in August. Rogers is also a retired Air Force pilot who was one of the first female pilots in the service.
“As a pilot in the United States Air Force, I was entrusted with classified information. We were always taught that you don’t send or receive classified information through unsecured channels,” Rogers says before going on to criticize Hillary Clinton for using a private, unsecured e-mail server to send and receive classified information.
Rogers was also taught that you can’t mix your uniform and politics
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click on the pic for the Lt. Colonel Wendy Rogers smackdown on the Queen of Corruption (length 0:40):
expressing an opinion and campaigning are two different things, so they’re ok...but normally we didn’t even discuss the topic unless it was about strategy/funding
Erick the Red!
Ha. That is what he is.
Erick the Red has been very quite lately.
She can do what she wants...except...violate her agreement to protect classified information.
Not true.
If she is excepting pay from the DoD (e.g. a retirement check) then she is still accountable to the UCMJ, which includes the prohibition against indicating official DoD (she's in uniform) support, or rejection, of a political candidate.
Further, as a retiree, she would be entitled to wear her uniform at appropriate functions...this does NOT include bashing a political candidate. She risks losing pay and allowances if not other punitive measures.
Outside of uniform and without indications the DoD is supporting her.....entirely different story.
Trust me there are people in the military who are liberal, and have no idea about politics. My oldest and his pals call them the weaklings who should never have made boot camp, and they certainly would have never made the Marine Corps boot camp at Parris island.
Obviously there is rivalry between Marines and others like Navy, and Army, but my son did say the Marine Corps is hte most conservative out of the lot.
No, actually an officer who is retired is receiving retired pay, and by federal law is able to be recalled to active duty at the convenience of the DOD (unless disabled to some degree). That said, I agree with her- in uniform or not. Officers assume an office via an oath, which expires only if they resign or are removed. Retirement is not a disqualifying status change.
Enlisted folks who retire fall off the recall list after five years of retired status.
May vary by service.
Hillary sent an email to Chelsea about Benghazi. Was that not classified info?
Yes!
Prove it. I’m retired and never heard such a thing. Also, if you recall, Scoyus rejected the stolen valor laws. People can dress as they wish.
Exactly. She’s RETIRED. What she said was fine.
If it had been me (retired) in uniform, I may have pondered mooning the Hillary vanamubulance while in BDUs.
It’s a good ad. WE had to live under those rules/laws. She should be held to the same laws.
Enlisted fall off after their service commitment—8 years total service, initially and then the length of enlistment. They can be extended, but cannot be recalled beyond their inactive service commitment.
I call BS. Prove me wrong and post the UCMJ regulations. I will apologize if I am wrong but I don’t think I am.
No they can't. Retirees are subject to the UCMJ and must respect the articles governing proper wear of the uniform.
http://www.ucmj.us/sub-chapter-1-general-provisions/802-article-2-persons-subject-to-this-chapter
Article 2 of the UCMJ:
(1) Members of a regular component of the armed forces, including those awaiting discharge after expiration of their terms of enlistment; volunteers from the time of their muster or acceptance into the armed forces; inductees from the time of their actual induction into the armed forces; and other persons lawfully called or ordered into, or to duty in or for training in the armed forces, from the dates when they are required by the terms of the call or order to obey it.
(2) Cadets, aviation cadets, and midshipman.
(3) Members of a reserve component while on inactive-duty training, but in the case of members of the Army National Guard of the United States or the Air National Guard of the United States only when in Federal Service.
(4) Retired members of a regular component of the armed forces who are entitled to pay.
I'm a retiree too.
First, Scotus changed uniform issues.
Second, retired receving pay are rotc instructors, service school instructors, and the like.
Agree with you in regard to the rules in place, but the list of those retired and brought back on active duty for a courts-martial is mighty small, and normally is for something egregious that occurred while on active duty.
He’s retired that makes him a civilian.
They’ll probably go after her pension!
I guess admitting you are wrong is difficult.
SCOTUS may have changed uniform issues RE the Stolen Valor Act, they did NOT change the uniform issue RE U.S. servicemembers or retirees.
Here is an article by Staff Judge Advocate officers discussing retirees and the UCMJ (I'll save you the trouble - yes, it is applicable):
https://www.jagcnet.army.mil/DOCLIBS/MILITARYLAWREVIEW.NSF/20a66345129fe3d885256e5b00571830/47c2b664085060fc85256e5b00576e6e/$FILE/Volume175Davidson.pdf
Further more, Article 2 of the UCMJ does not make the distinction that the retirees have to be ROTC instructors or the like....only that they are receiving pay (e.g. a retirement check).
If they are not on active duty, and are ROTC/school house instructors, they would be either government civilians or DoD contractors....and STILL prohibited from using a military uniform to bash a political candidate.
This is another article discussing the similar though it says while retirees are subject to the UCMJ, they likely will not be prosecuted by a Courts Martial for smoking pot.
http://www.military.com/daily-news/2014/07/14/retirees-unlikely-to-face-ucmj-charges-over-legal-pot.html
Here it is spelled out in plain English:
http://www.military.com/benefits/military-legal-matters/military-law-overview.html
Generally the military will not recall a retiree to active duty for a courts martial unless #1 the retiree committed a crime on active duty that wasn't discovered until after separation (for example espionage), or #2 the retiree commits an act that brings discredit against the service........
If some USAF brass decide the officer in question brought embarrassment and discredit to the USAF, (particularly from using their uniform and rank to bash a political candidate) they most certainly could conduct inquiry, recall the retiree, and subject the retiree to Courts Martial; suspending retiree pay and placing them in active duty pay status until the results of the trial - e.g. not guilty, or some punitive measure (which could include forfeiture of all pay and allowance.
You are entitled to your own opinion, you are not entitled to your own facts.
The UCMJ is clear - it applies to retirees receiving a retirement check.
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