Posted on 01/23/2017 4:51:10 PM PST by Starman417
That gay marriage is a looming threat to religious liberty as observed here, with the possible loss of tax exemptions for churches and institutions that don’t comply, and may lead to an era of religious persecution not seen in since the days of the Roman Empire, are scene in the chilling redefinition of the First Amendment’s guarantee of religious liberty by Sen. Tammy Baldwin, Democrat of Wisconsin, and the Senate’s only lesbian.
Baldwin, who is up for reelection in 2018, made her remarks on the June 27, 2015 broadcast of Up With Steve Kornacki on MSNBC. In a transcript of her remarks posted on Newsbusters Baldwin ignored the fact that it was religious persecution in Europe that led to people fleeing here seeking religious freedom on an individual as well as institutional level:
Certainly the first amendment says that in institutions of faith that there is absolute power to, you know, to observe deeply held religious beliefs. But I don’t think it extends far beyond that. We’ve seen the set of arguments play out in issues such as access to contraception. Should it be the individual pharmacist whose religious beliefs guides whether a prescription is filled, or in this context, they’re talking about expanding this far beyond our churches and synagogues to businesses and individuals across this country. I think there are clear limits that have been set in other contexts and we ought to abide by those in this new context across America.”Baldwin misreads the Constitution with its mandate saying Congress shall pass no law prohibiting the free exercise of religion. It is a key phrase in the First Amendment, leading off the Bill of Rights. These are individual rights fought for in the American revolution. These rights are not limited to institutions but apply to all individuals, just as the Supreme Court has decided the Second Amendment applies to individuals and not just to state-ordained militias.
Baldwin had been asked the question, “Should the bakery have to bake the cake for the gay couple getting married? Where do you come down on that?” She came down on the side of government coercion and the proposition that church is something you do on Sunday for an hour and otherwise shouldn’t act on your religious beliefs in your daily life.
The owners of Sweet Cakes by Melissa tried to act on their faith but were ordered to pat $135,000 to a lesbian couple based on an order from the Oregon Bureau of Labor and Industries. As the Washington Times reported:
The order affirms an initial ruling in January that found Aaron and Melissa Klein had violated Oregon civil-rights law by refusing to bake a wedding cake for a same-sex ceremony in 2013 and ordered them to pay damages to Rachel Cryer and Laurel Bowman.In Iran gay wedding cake and pizza requests are handled a bit more harshly and with more finality than a simple statement from a business owner that his or her faith won’t allow them to cater the affair. If two gays contemplating marriage had walked into a Tehran pizza shop like Memories Pizza in Walkerton Indiana, the pizza shop that refused to cater a gay wedding, hanging in the public square and not a simple refusal would have been a likely outcome.
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A lot of people simply do not grasp the purpose or intent of the "establishment" clause. It was a necessary reassurance to religious states that denominational tests would not be applied to people from their states serving in the Federal Government.
It was not to eliminate religion in government, the pervasive position was that everyone in US Government was a Christian. The "establishment clause" was simply a necessity in holding together a coalition of states made up of differing Christian denominations, all of which took religion very seriously.
I'm hoping it's Walker. If he runs, he's a shoo-in and an easy pickup. He's up for re-election in 2018 and I don't think he's got the heart to run for another 3rd term as WI Governor.
A lot of people simply do not grasp the purpose or intent of the "establishment" clause. It was a necessary reassurance to religious states that denominational tests would not be applied to people from their states serving in the Federal Government.
It was not to eliminate religion in government, the pervasive position was that everyone in US Government was a Christian. The "establishment clause" was simply a necessity in holding together a coalition of states made up of differing Christian denominations, all of which took religion very seriously.
Haven’t heard, but she is definitely beatable. Being a lesbian is her only accomplishment.
She doesn't even understand that Amendment 1 was focused on what government could not do and not some limitation on the people. I doubt a lot of public understand it either due to the MSM brainwashing over the years.
There are a lot Poor Little Boo, Boo Kitties out there.
She doesn’t understand our system of government.
The Constitution is not there for the government to grant or take away people their rights.
It’s to limit what the government can do to take away their rights.
The right to worship is ours and protected by the Constitution from people like you who would take it away.
Perhaps the couple who was forced to pay a fine for not baking a cake for two women pretending they were getting married should have argued the case this way: we believe marriage is between a man and woman and not between two women - if they want us to bake a cake to celebrate their loving friendship we would be happy to do that for them - then the court would have had to say NO you have to consider it a wedding cake - get it? In other words bake the cake for them but tell them ‘we do not consider it a wedding cake’ but a dear friendship cake - and then if the two women objected and insisted that the cake company MUST call it a wedding cake - the issue would have been much clearer and the courts would have had to actually state that the company baking the cake MUST use certain speech in reference to cakes they bake !!!
A woman sleeping with another woman is an abomination. All the fags and lezzies are just that.
She understands it, she just has no intention of letting people she hates be protected by it
I was hoping for him to head the FBI.
OK CHRISTIANS in western Wisconsin, time to dump the bitch in the trash heap of history.
“Baldwin ignored the fact that it was religious persecution in Europe that led to people fleeing here seeking religious freedom on an individual as well as institutional level”
Little by little those who wish to destroy our Republic and establish a socialist utopia have worked to place people in influential positions in our institutions (an intelligentsia).
History has been rewritten to demagogue our Founding Fathers, our nation, and our system of government. Even the reasons for our forefathers coming here have become obscured.
The MSM advocates socialism, changes the meaning of words in our language, and tell us what we should like and dislike, and what is good and evil. The judiciary has become advocates for social justice, rather than equal treatment under the law, and law have been twisted to define good as evil.
Our history books have become social commentaries advocating disrespect for our history, and the subtle advocacy for the establishment of a worldwide governance system.
We really need to make America Great Again. We need a new birth of freedom, with a judiciary dedicated to the Constitution and the reestablishment of judicial restraint, and a return to the government set up by our Founding Fathers.
The Wisconsin GOP is primed and ready to go after Baldwin. She is a terrible senator with a lousy record. Hers is the last “state-wide” office held by a Democrat in Wisconsin. She was deeply involved in a scandal at the Tomah, Wisconsin VA facility. Tammy is about to find out that her novelty has worn off in this newly minted red state.
Yer WRONG B&&&H!
Christians who marched in solidarity with “dangerous” Madonna and “nasty” Ashley Judd, WWJD? Does it matter?
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