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To: vladimir998

>>So Baptism = grace, correct? Since only grace can save us. Yet Baptism is given to infants who have no faith. So we can be saved without grace in that one limited circumstance, correct? Thus, sola fide is not as universal as some would think, correct?

No. Baptism is a means of grace but not grace itself. Grace is the disposition of God towards sinners because of what Christ has done on the cross. You seem to think Grace is something like liquid that is poured into man in exchange for some odd Romish understanding of “faith” because like Monty Hall, God wants to make a deal with you.

For the umpteenth time, you are mindlessly repeating that infants have no faith. You do not have a scriptural understanding of faith but a colloquial understanding of it.


29 posted on 06/25/2017 1:19:36 PM PDT by SolaSolaSola
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To: SolaSolaSola

“No. Baptism is a means of grace but not grace itself.”

If Baptism is freely given and gives grace, it is then grace. This is why Peter says Baptism “saves you” rather than “the grace of Baptism saves you” (even though the latter would be more correct).

“Grace is the disposition of God towards sinners because of what Christ has done on the cross.”

It’s not just a disposition.

“You seem to think Grace is something like liquid that is poured into man in exchange for some odd Romish understanding of “faith” because like Monty Hall, God wants to make a deal with you.”

So you’re now going to resort to pejoratives?

“For the umpteenth time, you are mindlessly repeating that infants have no faith.”

Because that’s the truth. You keep proving it too.

“You do not have a scriptural understanding of faith but a colloquial understanding of it.”

No, the exact opposite. If you’re already resorting to pejoratives and insults, than I guess you can’t make much of an argument.


34 posted on 06/25/2017 4:22:38 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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