Posted on 09/19/2017 8:28:01 AM PDT by fugazi
1777: The Battle of Freeman's Farm — the first engagement in the Battle of Saratoga — opens between Continental forces under the command of Gen. Horatio Gates and British forces under Gen. John "Gentleman Johnny" Burgoyne. The Brits carry the day, but suffer heavy losses.
1863: On the border of Georgia and Tennessee, fighting begins in earnest between forces commanded by Maj. Gen. William Rosecrans and Gen. Braxton Bragg. After two days of fighting, the Confederate Army of Tennessee inflicts 18,000 casualties on the Army of the Cumberland, driving Rosecrans from the battlefield, but Union soldiers kill, wound, and capture 16,000 Confederates. After Gettysburg, the Battle of Chickamauga marks the second-highest casualty totals of the Civil War.
1864: Lt. Gen. Jubal Early's Army of Shenandoah and Maj. Gen. Philip Sheridan's Army of the Valley meet in Winchester, W.V. - the third time Confederate and Union forces square off at that site. Sheridan manages to turn Early's left flank, leading to a Confederate retreat in what is considered perhaps the most crucial battle of the Shenandoah Valley Campaign. Casualties are heavy for both sides, and among the many fallen senior officers is Confederate brigade commander Col. George S. Patton, Sr. - grandfather of the legendary Gen. George S. Patton, Jr.
1881: President James A. Garfield, who served as Rosecrans' chief of staff during the Battle of Chickamauga, finally succumbs to wounds suffered during an assassination
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I’ve been reading this thread for a few minutes now.. and I have no clue what’s going on !
What parallel dimension did I step into here ?
Zackly!
The history of the Separatists (aka the pilgrims) wasn’t taught until after the war between the states.
It was a strategic attempt to erase/minimize America’s first permanent English colony at Jamestown, Va.
A further move would be to frame the Thanksgiving holiday as
we know it as something first conceived by these same Separatists.
Pulling down war memorials in the US didn’t start in the year 2017, nor did re-writing our history.
Oh ! It’s a “Today in history” thing !
Now I get it. I was trying to connect these events logically !
my GGranddaddy was with Sheridan. He had a different comical story behind the charge.
Please share.
My tolerant wife accompanied me on a five hour drive and walk around that entire complex battlefield. A lot to see and I still think it is one of the most confusing to understand.
Bookmarked for later.
I am a loyal servant of his majesty King Charles the First!! Damn Cromwell and his foul roundheads!!!!!
“I though Antietam was the 2nd bloodiest battle of the Civil War?”
Second only to the Battle of Shrute Farms.
Milton Bradley, American Heritage Game of the Civil War (1961)
https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/175017/american-heritage-game-civil-war
I think Antitam was the largest single-day loss of the Civil War.
“After Gettysburg, the Battle of Chickamauga marks the second-highest casualty totals of the Civil War.”
The battle of Chicamagua was one of the most significant battles of the civil war. Both sides considered it a must to win. It was the first battle on Georgia soil, intended to pave the way for the North’s march on Atlanta. Casualties were high on both sides, the Confederates held on and the North retreated their lines back to Chattanooga.
We have an indirect ancestor (cousin of a great, great grandfather) who fought for the North in the battle of Chickamagua, was captured by Confederate forces there, imprisoned at Andersonville (an infamous Confederate prison camp), and died there; requesting death for crossing a marker line he knew would result in his being shot; because he was no more than skin and bones and could not take the hunger anymore.
It is a piece of family history I was glad to discover; to have even that flimsy connection to the civil war, which made it more personal.
ivory handled pistols too,
Nathan Bedford Forrest kicked some butt at Chickamauga.
Avalon Hill had a “Gettysburg” board game. IIRC, it used a rectangular grid, rather than hexagons.
As most noted, Antietam was the bloodiest single day battle, and the casualty rate was appalling. Gettysburg only had 1000 more casualties, and lasted three full days (plus skirmishes a day before, and the skedaddle the day after).
agreed
I screwed up the number there, I was trying to do it by daily avg, and still messed it up. Gettysburg had more than twice the casualties, but lasted three days. [blush]
Yes, but the important distinction is one-day total leader versus entire battle leader.
The whole damn thing was a bloody mess. In my “country” it was going on four years prior to Fort Sumpter. (Platte Co, MO; Douglas and Johnson Co., KS)
Bleeding Kansas.
The battlefield technology had developed, and the battlefield tactics had not kept pace. Intel was pretty good, communication was much better over long distances, while communication in these fairly small areas where the battles were fought was not always so good — give or take a commander deciding to ignore orders and whatnot. :^)
Regardless, I’m glad we don’t fight ‘em that way any longer.
Antietam’s one day 22K vs Gettysburg’s three day 46K, or more pertinently Chickamauga’s two day 34K is the significant part to me.
Looking at that wiki-list linked above (first ten or so msgs here), it’s clear that there wasn’t a big bulge in the middle, where the casualty rates started in the hundreds or thousands in 1861, peaked in 1863, and dwindled again in 1865 — the numbers are all over the place.
I see that you have him beet.
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