Posted on 10/02/2017 6:23:29 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
ISIS claimed credit for the attack in Las Vegas Monday, however, an FBI agent involved in the investigation said there is no evidence of a connection to terrorism at this point. NY Times correspondent Rukmini Callimachi says it’s not true that ISIS claims responsibility for every attack, but she has her doubts about the accuracy of this claim:
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Rita Katz, Director of SITE Intelligence Group, also has a thread on the ISIS claim. She says ISIS is doubling down on this claim but still providing no evidence:
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So ISIS is definitely claiming this but still offering nothing in the way of proof. The translation of the most recent statement is behind SITE’s paywall but it appears they are claiming this was inspired by Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi’s call for more attacks made in an audio statement released last week. This was the first time in 10 months that anyone had heard from Baghdadi.
At the Atlantic, author Graeme Wood also says ISIS does not claim credit for every attack. However, he notes that the group recently made similar claims of responsibility for another attack which appears to have been a lie:
They have offered no evidence—no cell-phone video from the killer, pledging allegiance in broken Arabic; no selfies of him, raising a finger of monotheism. Another absent sign of Islamic State involvement is videos from Paddock’s rifle-scope. At attacks like the Holey Bakery in Dhaka, Bangladesh, the killers have uploaded real-time images, exclusive and corroborating imagery for Amaq. As with many subsequently verified attacks, we have not yet, in these early hours, seen any such evidence.
If their claim is a rare false one, it will not even be the first false claim to feature a casino. In June, a gambling addict shot up and torched the Resorts World casino in Manila, Philippines. The Islamic State claimed credit, with a dubious follow-up alleging that Jessie Javier Carlos, 42, converted to Islam some months before, without telling anyone. That explanation appears to be a total lie. A false claim of credit in Las Vegas will effectively shred the Islamic State’s news agency’s credibility. It will become a news agency that was once reliable, and now associates itself indiscriminately with heavily armed crazy people in casinos.
However, FBI Special Agent Aaron Rouse said at a press conference today that there is no evidence “to this point” the shooter had a connection to terrorism.
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The police have searched the shooter’s home but Sherriff Joseph Lombardo said he was “not aware of any derogatory information that we can utilize in furtherance of the investigation at this point.”
When someone commits an act with a terrorist motivation, they usually want the world to know. Omar Mateen, the Pulse nightclub shooter, made 911 calls in which he pledged allegiance to ISIS, knowing those calls would be recorded and, eventually, shared. So if this really is ISIS-inspired it seems odd that Paddock didn’t leave a note or a video or something making clear his motive. Maybe something will turn up but so far ISIS’ claim is unsupported.
Someone said there is a younger man with similar name, perhaps that is who ISIS is referring to.
Mark
The problem is after obama and Hillary walking free, no one trusts the “FIB”.
Who attacks such symbols of western decadence? Presbyterians? I won't repeat the joke about the Amish, but Unitarians? Well, I can only think of one answer.
And, I am assured that that answer is wrong. So what gives here?
Lookin’ like a Travis McGee novel.
an FBI agent involved in the investigation said there is no evidence of a connection to terrorism at this point.
That is what the FBI does to make it look like there is no connection to Islam.
They make the truthful observation that they have not proven a thing *yet*.
But it sounds like a flat out statement of *no connection*
It is deliberately done to deceive.
They should be saying, we don’t know. We are investigating.
ISIS should claim responsibility for H->!’s defeat.
If as corrupt an organization as Pew is shreiking for attention to its attempt to deny then it is probably true.
I’m betting it was a leftist, probably belonged to antifa, and wanted to kill right wing folk.
I don’t think this had anything to do with islam, or ISIS.
what was the motive? Tell us — we can handle the truth!! We are tired of the smoke screen. You are out of time. We have a right to know. The silence is DEAFENING!!
It appears that this is psyops by ISIS to spread confusion and fear.
However, we know bupkis about this shooter.
I keep an open mind about these things. The guy was clearly whacko, and exactly what might have triggered him is actually somewhat beside the point. But given where we are today, I don’t think you can take up a left wing cause, which is an anti-right wing, anti-American cause and then argue that islam and ISIS have nothing to do with it, since those issues are the fulcrum that divides well if not left and right, then at least pro and anti-Trump and surrogates for all the other issues that divide us.
“wanted to kill right wing folk.”
That may be it. Maybe he was a leftist who hated Trump and his supporters?
How could he be sure he was going to kill Trump supports in Las Vegas? A country western concert is a good bet.
“wanted to kill right wing folk.”
That may be it. Maybe he was a leftist who hated Trump and his supporters?
How could he be sure he was going to kill Trump supports in Las Vegas? A country western concert is a good bet.
True words
There are possible connections to all kinds of people and groups today including islam, Antifa, government, etc. The problem, they scrubbed so much of this guy before his name got out. It would have been better to let people have an idea of the guys motives. Computers have supposedly been sent to Quantico now. Not very likely we will get an answer.
Was the shooter a registered R or D?
The fact that he was blowing money at the casinos makes me think he was just a mental case
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