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Are Lever Guns for Cowboys of the Past?
Am Shooting Journal ^ | 11/7/2017 | J Hines

Posted on 11/07/2017 6:52:15 AM PST by w1n1

There was a time when we all thought repeaters were “out,” at least as far as hunting was concerned. Lever guns are for nostalgic geeks, right? Somewhat surprisingly, repeaters are experiencing a kind of renaissance. The truth is, even though bolt action and AR-platform rifles are most common in the deer woods, veteran hunters are increasingly switching to lever action, or back to lever action after a break from it.

Newer hunters, too, are drawn to the cowboy style rifle, though not always for the same reasons. One reason is that they know the vast majority of deer are taken at close and mid range, and most lever guns are built for accuracy, and maneuverability, at those moderate distances.

Especially for spot-and-stalk hunts, which have grown in popularity, the maneuverability and light weight of a lever gun can be preferable. Same goes for hunting brush country. Lever gun manufacturers such as Henry and Winchester have been improving on the classic design with new, refined guns in a broadened range of calibers. Ammo manufacturers have followed suit with lever-specific ammo that increases power, accuracy and safety.

Here are three lever guns from Henry Repeating Arms to look at:
The Big Boy All Weather .44

A major departure from any kind of John Wayne gun, the Big Boy All Weather is a durable weapon meant to go with you through the most demanding conditions. Although some of our friends had shot other models of the Big Boy and found it slow or difficult to load, compared to the 30-30 and .308, we found this one quicker to load with no jams, possibly because of the cartridge itself. Which is to be expected, since Henry has a long history with the .44 rimfire.

The Lone Ranger .308

This is Henry’s answer to the Browning .308 repeater, and it’s every bit as reliable. It will perform comparably to your bolt action at the same long ranges. Yes, it may be strange to see a lever gun in this caliber, but once you shoot it, you won’t want to put it down. Read the rest and full descriptions of cowboy lever action rifles here.


TOPICS: Hobbies; Outdoors
KEYWORDS: banglist; henryrepeatingarms; rifles
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To: Chasaway

Easy answer.....Ruger Ranch Hand. A variation of the old “Wanted Dead or Alive” hawg leg. Not available in 30-30 however.


21 posted on 11/07/2017 7:32:54 AM PST by Donkey Odious ( Adapt, improvise, and overcome - now a motto for us all.)
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To: Donkey Odious
Rossi Ranch hand?
22 posted on 11/07/2017 7:43:34 AM PST by InABunkerUnderSF (When trucks are outlawed only outlaws will have trucks,.)
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To: w1n1
The Mossberg 464 SPX is a tactical lever action rifle for the 21st Century (or for those states that ban Modern Sporting Rifles...)

Adjustable M4 style buttstock, picatinny rails for lights and lasers, and A2 style bird cage flash hider.


23 posted on 11/07/2017 7:48:14 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Chasaway

.30-30 has very similar ballistics to the 7.62×39mm so its a very powerful hunting and self defense round.

Someday I’m going to get a Winchester 73 clone rife (Uberti).
I would like it in 44-40 like the old timers, but I hear that .45 LC or .44 magnum is more practical.


24 posted on 11/07/2017 7:49:45 AM PST by crusher2013
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To: Donkey Odious

I looked up the Ranch Hand and found two important bits of information. One, it’s a Rossi product. Two, it’s no longer in production, so you would have to find one used.


25 posted on 11/07/2017 7:52:08 AM PST by Disambiguator (Keepin' it analog.)
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To: Yo-Yo

Franken-lever.


26 posted on 11/07/2017 8:03:13 AM PST by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest)
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To: Chasaway
In the early to mid '70s Marlin made a variation of the 336T - .30-30 lever with a straight grip - but with a 16" barrel rather than the standard 20". They called it the 336 Texan. It isn't much to shorten the barrel and magazine tube of a regular 336 to emulate that variation. One dovetail cut and relocate the front sight, although you may have to replace the front blade to compensate for the increased barrel diameter.

The Marlin 336 is a much stronger action than the Winchester, plus you have the option to mount a peep in the appropriate place. If I were starting this project I'd probably pick a .44 Magnum chambering rather than the .30-30. Down range performance are pretty equal but magazine capacity would be greater.

27 posted on 11/07/2017 8:03:29 AM PST by kitchen (If you are a violin bow maker or restorer please ping me.)
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To: Clay Moore

“...my grandad’s Marlin 336 in 35 Remington.”

Old School — like it! I hit the deer woods with a 336C in .30-30 and it does great in the kind of country I hunt.


28 posted on 11/07/2017 8:07:27 AM PST by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: w1n1

Used to be standard southern longarm for the Couldn’t Afford Browning or Weatherby working man or just liked a good value long arm

Hung on the rack in the back of his single cab pickup

It was ubiquitous

Briefly eclipsed by the Rugsr Mini 14 by younger rural lads late 70s early 80s

I still have a Marlin 30-30

Very few rifles in gun racks anymore


29 posted on 11/07/2017 8:10:22 AM PST by wardaddy (Virtue signalers shozuld be shot on sight...conservative ones racked and hanged then fed to dogs)
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They used to be limited to flat-point bullets. No more...


30 posted on 11/07/2017 8:10:29 AM PST by Rio (Proud resident of the State of Jefferson)
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To: Clay Moore

Close ballistics

35 has a slightly larger grain bullet available

Teddy Roosevelt used 35 Remington a lot


31 posted on 11/07/2017 8:15:23 AM PST by wardaddy (Virtue signalers shozuld be shot on sight...conservative ones racked and hanged then fed to dogs)
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To: elcid1970
Lucas McCain was the original `bumpfire’ shooter, and also rapid reloader; during the Rifleman intro he fired seven and reloaded seven more so fast you couldn’t see it, for a total burst of fourteen (count ‘em).

I always thought that Lucas Mccain was the inspiration for Al Bundy's TV hero, "Psycho Dad." ("He's quick with a gun, but he loves his son.") Old Lucas racked up quite a body count during the run of that series.

32 posted on 11/07/2017 8:15:50 AM PST by GreenHornet
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To: Rio
The magnificent Savage 99 never had that problem, and was able to use efficient Spitzer bullets from the start. In great flat-shooting high velocity calibers like 300 Savage, .308, .243, etc.

It would still be in production, but its production tooling and machinery flat wore out a few decades back, and was too expensive to replace. But for those who own them, the 99s are "keepers."

33 posted on 11/07/2017 8:16:13 AM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Chasaway

look up a mare’s leg, it’s a lever action pistol. Think of a Winchester 30-30 with about a 12” barrel and rear stock cut off just behind end of lever. Like Steve McQueen carried on the old “Wanted Dead or Alive” TV show.

Legally it’s just a pistol, because it is manufactured that way and is not a cut down rifle (that would make it an NFA weapon) subject to a $200 tax and a BUNCH of paperwork and about a six month wait.


34 posted on 11/07/2017 8:26:56 AM PST by E.Allen
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To: Donkey Odious
Easy answer.....Ruger Ranch Hand. A variation of the old “Wanted Dead or Alive” hawg leg.

I believe that it was called a Mares Leg by Steve McQueen.

35 posted on 11/07/2017 8:29:49 AM PST by itsahoot (As long as there is money to be divided, there will be division.)
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To: Travis McGee

We’ve got one of those inn 30-30! Still shoots great. It’s in original condition, meaning it’s 120 years old.


36 posted on 11/07/2017 8:31:29 AM PST by CodeToad (CWII is coming. Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: BuffaloJack

The author got it wrong as usual its the “LONG RANGER”
https://www.henryusa.com/rifles/the-long-ranger/

comes in .223 .243 .308


37 posted on 11/07/2017 8:32:44 AM PST by mouser (Run the rats out its the only chance we have)
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To: w1n1

Never give up my stainless Marlin 30-30. Best darn deer rifle for my neck of the woods.

38 posted on 11/07/2017 8:39:38 AM PST by Jonah Hex
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To: w1n1

One of the most reliable rifles available, that can be fired at near semiauto speed if you’re good enough, and can go all the up to .45 caliber. A great piece of survival gear, or all around piece.


39 posted on 11/07/2017 8:41:01 AM PST by Golden Eagle ("A lot of people are disappointed in the Justice Department, including me" - Trump on Nov 3, 2017)
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To: Golden Eagle

.45 reference was in regard to matching what’s on your hip.


40 posted on 11/07/2017 8:43:19 AM PST by Golden Eagle ("A lot of people are disappointed in the Justice Department, including me" - Trump on Nov 3, 2017)
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