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Why would the Russians feed dirt on Trump to Steele and Hillary if they wanted Trump to win?
Flopping Aces ^ | 03-14-18 | DrJohn

Posted on 03/15/2018 10:57:55 AM PDT by Starman417

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1 posted on 03/15/2018 10:57:55 AM PDT by Starman417
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To: Starman417

Because Hillary said so, got it!


2 posted on 03/15/2018 11:07:05 AM PDT by eyeamok (Tolerance: The virtue of having a belief in Nothing!)
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To: Starman417

It is pretty clear that the Democratic Party and the Clinton Campaign were either willing or unwilling dupes for the Russians (probably both, but mostly willing)

They might have been doing the same to the Trump team.

What do the Russians get out of it?

Leverage/blackmail or power material over whoever won the race.


3 posted on 03/15/2018 11:09:53 AM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: Starman417

Answer: The Russians

I’ll take elections for $500, Alex.

Question: Who wanted to sow discord in the American 2016 elections?


4 posted on 03/15/2018 11:12:28 AM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: eyeamok

Discusting ..lock em all up.


5 posted on 03/15/2018 11:12:57 AM PDT by spokeshave
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To: Starman417

Because Russians drink so much vodka!


6 posted on 03/15/2018 11:13:38 AM PDT by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper.)
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To: rlmorel

If whoever took the bait lost, nothing lost on their side.

I wonder if they didn’t think through on or didn’t care what would happen to the side that took the bait if they lost.

And the media was both a willing and unwilling dupe as well, but almost all willing like the Dems and Clinton.

They just did not consider losing.

Now, all they have is to double down on their stupidity. It did not occur to them their side might lose.


7 posted on 03/15/2018 11:15:02 AM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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I still haven’t seen a shred of evidence that the Russians DID feed information to Steele. The only basis for that is that Steele SAID that’s where the dossier came from.
Oh, and by the way, the poisoned Russian retired spy, was a close Steele associate. I’m sure that’s just a coincidence.
The whole thing is a DNC/Deep state?Intel community scam.

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/03/spy-posions-spy-and-the-anti-trump-campaign.html


8 posted on 03/15/2018 11:17:41 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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I do believe the Clintons were up to their necks in Uranium One with the Russians, and it would have served Putin’s purposes to have Clinton win, because that nonsense would become more entrenched, and they would have had something to hold over her.


9 posted on 03/15/2018 11:19:25 AM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: DesertRhino

I agree. But I also don’t discount active Russian meddling...with the Clintons and the DNC.


10 posted on 03/15/2018 11:21:18 AM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: Starman417

Steele’s Russian spy friend (the one poisoned who had lived openly in the UK for 8 years) almost certainly composed the fake dossier, and was able to write it as though it came from a local.
Then he had to be offed because he knew too much and Steele and the Brennan/Comey/GCHQ crowd realized they better not trust a double agent.

Simple as that. And what is happening is a second coup attempt here in the USA. JFK being the first.


11 posted on 03/15/2018 11:21:55 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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You have to twist yourself into a pretzel to believe this.


12 posted on 03/15/2018 11:23:40 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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I still haven’t seen any proof unless it has come from rabid Hillary supporters, or traitors to America like Comey, Brennan, Clapper, McCain, Neuland, etc.

And the premise of the article is pretty solid. If Russia was intending to assist Trump, then releasing the Russian hooker/pee pee on the mattress dossier would be a pretty strange way to help. When confronted with this obvious contradiction, their answer changed form Russians assisting Trump, to, “Oh, the Russians just wanted to sow general chaos”.

Laughable to watch their constantly changing story.


13 posted on 03/15/2018 11:27:09 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: the_Watchman

“Question: Who wanted to sow discord in the American 2016 elections?”

Yes... who indeed AFTER the election wanted to sow discord? And who before the election wanted to smear an opponent as some kind of Russian tool?

Who? The answer is staring us all right in the face.


14 posted on 03/15/2018 11:29:10 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: rlmorel

“Leverage/blackmail or power material over whoever won the race.”

I had always though the Russkies wanted the bitch to win! They had all her emails!


15 posted on 03/15/2018 11:30:44 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing! Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a doctor and I won't touch that thing)
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To: Starman417

the collusion was with the dems... the trump russia collusion is a smoke screen to deflect guilt from the dems who reset relations to russia for big bucks.


16 posted on 03/15/2018 11:31:04 AM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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To: miss marmelstein

You do indeed. That logical inconsistency is exactly why the dems switched from “Russia was backing Trump”, to “Russia was trying to sow general non-targeted chaos”.

Their updated lies were conflicting with their earlier lies.
This is an interesting case study of “Oh what a tangled web we weave...”
Hillary’s excuses and lies by necessity get more and more complex and contradictory.


17 posted on 03/15/2018 11:34:26 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: Starman417

To understand you must think like a liberal which is impossible for us.


18 posted on 03/15/2018 11:38:20 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: Starman417

Anti-russia McCrazies know the answer.


19 posted on 03/15/2018 11:46:18 AM PDT by granada
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“Some things just don’t add up.”


Oh, that’s for sure. The first thing about the whole “Russian collusion” meme that doesn’t add up is its very basis - Why on God’s green Earth would Vlad Putin want Trump to win? If anything, he’d want him to LOSE.

Why? Well, Russia’s economy has barely started to recover from 75 years of Communism, and many years of corruption (which are not over by a long shot). Its economy is about the size of NY State’s, and it gets 2/3 of its foreign currency earnings from the sale of oil and gas...

...and along comes Trump, who promises from Day One of his campaign to unleash the full creativity and capacity of the US oil industry, take coal off of its deathbed, etc. These things could only DECREASE Russian revenue from sales of oil and gas, endangering its military build-up at least, and its very economy at worst.

Oh, and speaking of military build-ups, Trump promised one of those, too. Our economy is maybe 15 times the size of Russia’s, and we’d bury them in short order if we were serious.

By the way, the twin pillars of bringing down the Soviet Union were cutting them off at the knees by having the Saudis produce oceans of oil, so as to dramatically cut the price of oil and natural gas, and a very large military build-up. Putin assuredly knows this and remembers it well - and someone who called the destruction of the Soviet Union “one of the greatest political tragedies of the 20th Century” would be in no mood to have the same happen to his nascent plans for a renewed Russian Empire.

Hillary, meanwhile, promised to keep the chains on the oil industry, pound a stake through the heart of the coal industry, and spend every dime that we could borrow on social programs - not the military. Hillary could also be blackmailed because of the entire Uranium One story - if, that is, she ever got out of line and started actually doing something effective vs. the Russians.

No, Putin and the Russian leadership did NOT want Trump to win, not by any stretch of the imagination. Thus, the entire “Trump-Russia” collusion meme makes about as much sense as screen doors on a submarine.


20 posted on 03/15/2018 1:21:05 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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