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Democrats And Media Move The Goalposts On Border Separations In Record Time(in 180 deg flip)
Red State ^ | June 20, 2018 | Bonchie

Posted on 06/21/2018 4:41:38 AM PDT by sickoflibs

Who could of possibly seen this coming?

President Trump signed an EO today that essentially allows families to be detained together in order to stop the issue of separating children from parents. This, we were assured, was the primary concern of the most virtuous among us who have driven a news cycle of hysteria the last month.

Furthermore, this was a situation so dire they said, so terrible, that the President needed to simply ignore the law and stop separations on his own

So what happens when he actually does what they want?

Nick Riccardi ✔ @NickRiccardi NYT reports that, rather than separating children from parents, the Trump administration will hold children indefinitely with their parents, violating a court settlement and inevitably triggering a legal challenge . 12:39 PM - Jun 20, 2018

Wait, I thought there was no legal reason for Trump to be separating families at the border and it was wholly his fault? Odd.

'Sources Say' is Greek for 'Fake News' @NolteNC But the media told me there was no law separating families. 3:31 PM - Jun 20, 2018 · Boone, NC

You can expect the media, the same media who told us family separations were THE issue, to now champion legal challenges to the President’s EO that keeps families together…because of course they will.

@AaronBlake So basically, it will solve this problem in a way it knows may be struck down, rather than just relaxing the zero-tolerance policy 12:42 PM - Jun 20, 2018

There’s the mask slipping. This was always about catch and release being forced to return, not concern for kids spending 20 days in well equipped HHS shelters before going to live with family members in the interior.

@StevenTDennis Durbin spitting🔥over Trump's executive order: "His new Executive Order criminalizes asylum-seekers and seeks to indefinitely detain their children. Locking up whole families is no solution at all." Asks Rs to "call for an end to this monstrous Trump Administration policy." 4:59 PM - Jun 20, 2018

Surprised? Of course you aren’t. If you had under 12 on the total number of hours it’d take for the Democrats and media figures to decide that ending family separations isn’t a good thing, collect your winnings at the window.

This should be a lesson to some conservatives who let themselves become pawns in this battle. I think most of their concerns were sincere but you can challenge a policy logically and with real solutions without playing into the hyperbole of the Democrat/media alliance.

Anyone that thought this was all good faith outrage from the left was kidding themselves. I’ll leave you with this nugget of truth from RedState writer Brandon Morse…

@TheBrandonMorse See, folks. Democrats didn't care under Obama, and they don't care now. This isn't about the kids. With Democrats, it's never really ever about the kids 4:20 PM - Jun 20, 2018


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KEYWORDS: childseparation; illegals; immigration; trump
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To: sickoflibs
The way I read this (from the EO), President Trump says he is willing to keep these families together, as long as the law allows it. The current order from Cali does not and he has asked to have it amended to allow keeping the families together until their proceedings are adjudicated. They REMAIN in custody until then.

IF the Court in Cali refuses, then the current policy remains, i.e. the kids are held separately up to 20 days while better accommodations are found.

If the court provides relief, then the AG and other agencies are held to provide quick adjudication of the cases to keep the length of confinement to a minimum.

He is quite clear that zero tolerance will continue and provides congress / the courts an opputunity to ammend their brutal rules. I hope he and his people continue to hammer this home!

21 posted on 06/21/2018 5:40:50 AM PDT by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
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To: An.American.Expatriate
RE:”The way I read this (from the EO), President Trump says he is willing to keep these families together, as long as the law allows it. The current order from Cali does not and he has asked to have it amended to allow keeping the families together until their proceedings are adjudicated. They REMAIN in custody until then.
IF the Court in Cali refuses, then the current policy remains, i.e. the kids are held separately up to 20 days while better accommodations are found.”

How about something more dramatic to show libs as liars?

After 20 days force libs to go to court to get a court to order Trump to split up families?

22 posted on 06/21/2018 5:44:59 AM PDT by sickoflibs ('Equal protection' only applies to illegals not you!)
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To: sickoflibs

Now the news media is obsessed with the 2,000 that are separated and here now. They forget that these 2,000 didn’t come with their parents so it’s difficult to reunite them - plain idiots.


23 posted on 06/21/2018 5:46:44 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Sa-teef

Hate. Yes.

Remember, “Resentment is like drinking poison and waiting for the other person to die”.

The rabid Trump haters are getting uglier and uglier as they die of hate. And Trump moves forward as they die of hate.


24 posted on 06/21/2018 5:49:35 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: sickoflibs
After 20 days force libs to go to court to get a court to order Trump to split up families?

THEN, he would be ignoring the law and the lib's would scream even louder. What he effectively done is say "okay" I'll keep them together, but the liberal court ruling that REQUIRES their separation needs to be removed first.

25 posted on 06/21/2018 6:03:49 AM PDT by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
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To: sickoflibs
His new Executive Order criminalizes asylum-seekers...

This whole “asylum” thing is the biggest lie of all...

The “asylum” seekers are not Mexican, they’re Central Americans. If they ar truly seeking asylum, why aren’t they applying for it when they reach Mexico??? Why travel another couple thousand miles to get to here?

The media doesn’t just spin any longer. It’s all just bald-faced lying.

26 posted on 06/21/2018 6:13:23 AM PDT by Magnatron
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To: sickoflibs
@TheBrandonMorse See, folks. Democrats didn't care under Obama, and they don't care now. This isn't about the kids. With Democrats, it's never really ever about the kids 4:20 PM - Jun 20, 2018

It always has been, always will be only about POWER!!Political power!!!!

27 posted on 06/21/2018 6:16:38 AM PDT by Don Corleone (Horse heads work!)
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To: sickoflibs

The MSM is a willing participant, and all “next topic by which we are outraged” handbooks have been provided by the 0bama-run machine.

It has all of the “...if Trump does this, then....” possible outcomes lined up. This is how the entire MSM can switch in under 5 minutes, from one “Trump is evil” story to the next. They all have the list, and they all are complicit in this high-stakes charade.


28 posted on 06/21/2018 6:18:08 AM PDT by NEMDF
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To: robroys woman

This was completely expected. I expected it. I talked about it to my friends. I was sorely disappointed that Trump caved on this one.


In the martial arts you are faced with a bigger meaner opponent that attacks you, is it caving when you use his momentum to toss them over you to the ground?

What President Trump did was to change the attack. He gave them what they asked for, but since he (and we know what they ask for is not want they want), they were forced to change 180 degrees and begin attacking him for doing what they asked him to do.

Who is going to win that conflict?

I would expect the executive order will be brought up to the judge that ruled families had to be separated and ruled invalid.

The President has inoculated himself from these baseless charges.


29 posted on 06/21/2018 6:43:43 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (US out of the UN, UN out of the US)
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To: CIB-173RDABN
The President has inoculated himself from these baseless charges.

Agree with your post. In the end, it is still up to CONGRESS to write the laws, and Trumps EO (and any court disposition of it) puts the ball back where it belongs, feckless C-ongress.

30 posted on 06/21/2018 6:48:06 AM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them)
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To: sickoflibs

The mask is off.

The media, doing the Left’s bidding WAS using the children and was not really about “family separation”, not at all.

Their target all along is exposed. It was always the “zero tolerance” at the border policy.

Why? The alternative to the zero tolerance policy is what they want. What’s that? “Catch and Release” is the alternative. Illegals are “caught”, charged, given a court date and sent on into the country, where nine times out of ten they never ever make the court date and slip, like 12-20 million others, into the legal shadows.


31 posted on 06/21/2018 6:50:25 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: simpson96

Don’t forget about the Republican Establishment. They are just as culpable.


32 posted on 06/21/2018 6:52:37 AM PDT by richardtavor
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To: sickoflibs

Another day with Trump playing 3D chess and winning!


33 posted on 06/21/2018 7:10:12 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Stosh

Straight out of Rules For Radicals. They never go off script because underneath all the screaming and frothing at the mouth they are doctrinaire Marxists.


34 posted on 06/21/2018 7:11:12 AM PDT by Bayan
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To: Dutch Boy
It isn’t supposed to be like that if their god was all powerful,

BOOM! Exactly! Perfect analogy between the wannabe commies and the horde!

35 posted on 06/21/2018 7:57:32 AM PDT by gr8eman (Since God has been banished from our classrooms, Satan has filled the void.)
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To: sickoflibs

The weakest link in this country is liberals the most dangerous democrats.


36 posted on 06/21/2018 9:21:59 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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