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Vanity With Apologies - Help With Resume?
06/30/23 | Captain Phil Fan

Posted on 06/30/2023 9:04:28 AM PDT by CaptainPhilFan

FReepers, a dear family member has been given 2 weeks notice.

Anyone have a recommendation for a seriously good resume writer, who knows current lingo and style and has the ability to highlight skills without writing a novel?

This person is greatly talented in many computer, tech, IT things but has some trouble sorting out his resume.

I appreciate any suggestions you might have, whether it's a person or a program.

Hoping to encourage him to get as many applications out in the next 2 weeks while he still has the job.

Many thanks.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Computers/Internet; Miscellaneous
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To: Political Junkie Too

Thank you. I believe he has both, I think Dice hasn’t been helpful, but thank you :)


21 posted on 06/30/2023 9:46:43 AM PDT by CaptainPhilFan ( Bring back insane asylums)
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To: fuzzylogic

Thank you. Great insight - not at all fuzzy :)

I’m going to send him the link to this thread and let him read it all, too.


22 posted on 06/30/2023 9:50:03 AM PDT by CaptainPhilFan ( Bring back insane asylums)
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To: CaptainPhilFan
Feel free to send me a private message. I've had a couple professional resume writers tackle my with total failure, got my money back. I used to write and edit resumes decades ago, still write my own. Happy to help edit yours if you want.

Nowawdays if you are using the job boards, LinkedIn, Dice, Indeed, Monster, and Ziprecruiter, you need a resume 1-4 pages with the right keywords and other formula. There are websites that will score your resume. These are imporant, helpful, but not an end all. I use several, such as Resume Worded (https://resumeworded.com/).

23 posted on 06/30/2023 9:59:33 AM PDT by Reno89519 (DeSantis 2024. Successful Governor, Honorable Veteran, Respectful, Respected.)
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To: CaptainPhilFan

Please make sure there are NO mistakes. Have at least 2 other people proof-read it. And yes, agree with 1 page.


24 posted on 06/30/2023 10:05:56 AM PDT by jocon307 (Democrats delenda est.)
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To: CaptainPhilFan
About job searches... I was a consultant for years, still am. Have and have my own business. Always looking for new work. Key is to have a good resume and cover letter with matching content on the job boards. Then, go to each with relevant keywords and locations, even remote, and apply to any and all. I typically apply to 100-500 job posting on any given day. Part of it is timing. Some sites will give you count of applications already submitted, sometimes over a 1,000. Best to be frequent and get in as one of the first 10. Takes practice and timing, but gets better response as I think they stop looking after a bit.

In IT my biggest complaint are Indian recruiters, calling from India. I swear, probably 90% of recruiters are Indian. They never get me work and I suspect the steer it to fellow Indians.

All of my successful work has come from non-Indian recruiters. Just my experience.

I apply to both, just in case.

BTW, a lot of job postings are not real, they are just collecting information. Also, ignore the offered hourly and annual rates, they are always negotiable.

Lastly, be current with applicable laws.

So much more I could share but I'm late to an appointment.

25 posted on 06/30/2023 10:06:18 AM PDT by Reno89519 (DeSantis 2024. Successful Governor, Honorable Veteran, Respectful, Respected.)
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To: struggle

Sorry, one page won’t work for most people unless you are directly out of school. 1-2 page for many, but 3-4 or more may be necessary. Depends on the skills, your job history, and what is needed to share your story. And the applicant scoring programs won’t penalize you for length, but keep in mind that the first page must give enough interest-grabbing detail for the human to look at the subsequent pages.


26 posted on 06/30/2023 10:09:39 AM PDT by Reno89519 (DeSantis 2024. Successful Governor, Honorable Veteran, Respectful, Respected.)
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To: Reno89519

I appreciate all of this good insight.

It’s very tough out there. And yes, those friggin indian recruiters - I know he doesn’t bother to take their calls anymore except when he feels like playing with them.


27 posted on 06/30/2023 10:15:55 AM PDT by CaptainPhilFan ( Bring back insane asylums)
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To: Reno89519

Thank you! I’ll see if he wants to make contact.


28 posted on 06/30/2023 10:17:34 AM PDT by CaptainPhilFan ( Bring back insane asylums)
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To: CaptainPhilFan

Begin the resume with a section labeled ‘objective’, then lie by writing. DEI statement. The rest of the resume need not have any meaning. (Only semi-serious about this)


29 posted on 06/30/2023 10:20:04 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Delay Trump’s trial, delay. Elect Trump President. Trump pardons himself.)
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To: ConservativeInPA

LOL! You may be 100% correct in this. Write it on rainbow paper, too.


30 posted on 06/30/2023 10:26:52 AM PDT by CaptainPhilFan ( Bring back insane asylums)
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To: CaptainPhilFan

I helped a IT friend with his resume a few years ago.

I said not
To waste too much time on the languages you know. So does everyone else.

Instead we focused on what he accomplished.

His resume showed an 18 month project with a major highly work retail company that allows homos in the women’s room. I asked what his project was.

It was to redesign some program that every store used daily that would crash frequently requiring several hours to fix.

He made it so it never crashed and saved several hours a day per store.

We added that to his resume. He got the next job he interviewed for.

For every bullet point, ask “so what?”


31 posted on 06/30/2023 10:30:00 AM PDT by cyclotic
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To: CaptainPhilFan

In the tech industry most resumes will get pre-screened before anyone’s eyes will see it. I recommend creating several versions depending on the job they are applying for. Not everything needs to be on the resume, but the information that meets the jobs requested requirements should be. Everything must be accurate and true. If anything doesn’t check out, you will never hear a peep again from the employer.

Now as to online. In LinkedIn put as much as you are comfortable to share about your skills and experience. You will get many contacts from recruiters, so you need to figure out which ones are just collecting resumes and who has real jobs. If you get contacted by a company, it should be real and you should try to continue the conversation.

On-line job boards (Indeed, Dice, etc.) have the ability to upload your resume for quick applications. The also have search-bots Those can notify you as soon as a position is posted. I’ve had luck applying within minutes of a posting. One time I got an interview scheduled at about 6:00 on a Sunday. They posted the job, I got notification, I applied, and they called all within about 1/2 an hour. They were impressed that I found it, was ready to apply, and had qualifications they were looking for.

Last piece of advice. It will be a grueling experience, don’t let rejection get you down. It’s typical to only get a handful of hits in 3-6 months of searching. Also, most companies make you apply on-line and basically upload your resume. I copy and paste it in, but always include a word document attachment with a cover letter when applying.


32 posted on 06/30/2023 10:39:48 AM PDT by Woodman
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To: fuzzylogic; CaptainPhilFan
...they’ll know your age and they may discriminate...

They WILL discriminate.

33 posted on 06/30/2023 10:55:14 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: ConservativeInPA

Yes, absolutely, DEI is so embedded in the application process, some sites require you to list pronouns, they all want to know your race, sex, and so forth.


34 posted on 06/30/2023 10:57:35 AM PDT by Reno89519 (DeSantis 2024. Successful Governor, Honorable Veteran, Respectful, Respected.)
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To: CaptainPhilFan

Quantify and qualify
Active verb tense


35 posted on 06/30/2023 11:04:34 AM PDT by SheepWhisperer (Get involved with, or start a home fellowship group. It will be the final church. ACTS 2:42-47)
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To: Reno89519

>Sorry, one page won’t work for most people unless you are directly out of school. 1-2 page for many, but 3-4 or more may be necessary. Depends on the skills, your job history, and what is needed to share your story. And the applicant scoring programs won’t penalize you for length, but keep in mind that the first page must give enough interest-grabbing detail for the human to look at the subsequent pages.

The problem is that HR professionals take maybe 10 seconds to read your resume and, guess what, if it has a staple or paper clip in it, it’s probably going in the trash.

The best thing you can do is (1) precall and get a NAME to send the resume to directly, (2) talk to that person before you send the resume, and (3) email the person afterwards.

Keeping your name in their mind works wonders.


36 posted on 06/30/2023 11:08:07 AM PDT by struggle
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To: CaptainPhilFan

A 2-week notice of being fired?

Usually accounts are locked and person is walked out the door...


37 posted on 06/30/2023 11:18:23 AM PDT by dakine
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To: dakine

I know. Thing is, this week he led 2 training sessions to teach people ABOVE him how do their jobs better. They may be hoping to get more out of him, but it may also be his piss poor manager forgot to tell him what’s expected of him now.


38 posted on 06/30/2023 11:34:10 AM PDT by CaptainPhilFan ( Bring back insane asylums)
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To: Thank You Rush

Agree. I also remove graduation/degree and professional registration, licence & certification years from the engineer resumes I manage to avoid age discrimination.


39 posted on 06/30/2023 11:45:55 AM PDT by MonicaG (Freedom 2023)
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To: cyclotic

“For every bullet point, ask “so what?””

THIS@


40 posted on 06/30/2023 11:49:12 AM PDT by MonicaG (Freedom 2023)
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