It's 5150 Time!!!! Sammy Hagar Re-Joins Van Halen

Melodicrock.com ^ | 11-20-03 | my favorite headache

[StriperSniper]

Hmmm...I wonder if he needs someone to look after his interests in Cabo. I could be persuaded to relocate for a while. ;-)

[WrightWings]

My "Live in Rio" DVD just arrived yesterday... I'll be sitting down to watch it this weekend (along with my Ext Ed Two Towers DVD... No other plans, other than the Chiefs/Raiders game... That should take up the entire weekend!)

Wow! Rush, LOTR, KC Chiefs?! You must be my evil twin. OTOH, maybe I am yours... :-)

[sully777]

Forgive me. Forgive me. Forgive me. I don't have liner notes.

Actually, IMO No Rolie, no classic Santana either.

[RightWingNut]

Pick up Syd Barrett's 2 solo albums. Very interesting work !!

[pro libertate]

I concur on Rolie and Santana. I think Rolie is vastly underappreciated by the public.

To tie this in with the VH thread: Rolie's band, The Storm, included Ron Wikso, former drummer for David Lee Roth. I actually enjoyed The Storm due to the inclusion of Kevin Chalfont, who was the former lead singer of Steel Breeze from Sacramento.

[Itzlzha]

There was a manic energy to Van Halen was Roth was the front man that was lost when Sammy took over. But before you blame Sammy, remember that when Dave got his own all-star band, (Steve Vai from Zappa, Billy Sheehan from Talas, Gregg Bissonette from Count Basie's band) they didn't have any decent songs.

WHAT?!?!

"Goin' Crazy"..."Elephant Gun"..."Ladies Night in Buffalo"...you say these aren't 'decent'?!?!

As a musician, may I say you are 180% off. If Dave's ego hadn't broken the Band's chemistry in the next album...if Dave could get beyond his overblown ego long enough to allow a band to mature...that band would have ruled as VH did!

[Spandau]

If you haven't heard Vegetable Man and Scream thy Last Scream, you aren't missing anything. Piper at the Gates of Dawn is good, and so is their early single See Emily Play. The rest of the Syd Barrett stuff is pretty bad. He has two solo albums produced by Rick Wright and David Gilmour, but they are just not like Piper at the Gates of Dawn. I think that was Pink Floyd's best moment and it was downhill from there. Animals was OK. All of it except that first one are too depressing for me anymore.

[Itzlzha]

Speaking of horse, Steve Vai was awesome! IMHO HE BLEW AWAY OLD and NEW EDDIE. Too bad Vai left for his solo projects and Roth was overcome with excess.

Actually, Vai left to join Whitesnake...then on to his solo stuff!

Get the chance to see any incarnation of G3...DO IT...but especially if Vai is in it!

[BlueNgold]

Steve Vai is no Eddie VH.

[Itzlzha]

This thread is making me weep for the early 80s. Reagan in the White House, hanging out at Uncle Charlies in Mill Valley, and keggers and bonfires at Fort Cronkite. Where did my youth go?

AMEN! (except for the Uncle Charlies and bonfires at Fort Cronkite part...grew up in Taxachusetts, so my experiences were VASTLY different!)

[gawatchman]

"Barrett", and "The Madcap Laughs". I already own them, and love them both. I would like very much if I could find the "Vegetable Man" recording that I mentioned earlier-another self portrait. A friend had this song on a bootleg vinyl which had numerous other unreleased works by Barrett with Floyd . He also had another bootleg called "Dark Side of the Moo" which had "Apples and Oranges" which I think was originally released as a single. However, the sound quality was kind of lacking, but I wish I could find a copy of some of these works on CD somewhere, but so far, haven't been able to.

[Gottwnz]

Yea, now your talkin', Scream Dream was the bomb! i got that originally on 8-track, wore it out , had it on cassette twice wore them out. Then finally got it on C.D never get tired of that one. INCREDIBLE ALBUM!

[larlaw]

Actually, it is my recollection that while Diamond Dave is indeed Jewish, he was actually born in Bloomington, Indiana where his father, Dr. Nathan Roth, was a podiatrist before he moved his practice and his family to Pasadena. (I had a subscription to Circus magazine in high school and I'm pretty sure that is what I read...)

[Itzlzha]

Steve Vai is no Eddie VH.

Apples and Oranges...both are innovators and virtuosos in their own right. Vai is just a better team player, and more rounded and versatile.

Van Halen kept to himself and his own area, except where he got suckered by that inveterate/serial pedophile Michael Jackson on "Beat It". He was never paid for his performance, BTW.

[Skooz]

Pick up Syd Barrett's 2 solo albums. Very interesting work !!

I bought Barrett's solo albums about 20 years ago. The first few times I listened, I didn't really get it.

The next few times I listened, I thought they were interesting.

The next few times I listened, I thought it was some of the most endearing music I had ever heard. I fell in love with both albums.

Definately an acquired taste, but songs like, "Baby Lemonade," "The Madcap Laughs" and "Gigolo Aunt," are so fun to listen to they are addictive. "Dominoes" is one of the most moving songs I've ever heard. Great, great stuff.

Heck, I even thought "Rats" was great, so maybe it's just me. :0)

[Skooz]

There are numerous Floyd bootleg sites where you can download just about any bootleg imaginable. I have "Vegetable Man" around here somewhere, but you can find it on MP3 any one of a number of places.

[pro libertate]

lol. My memory must be going, because Uncle Charlie's was next door in Corte Madera, not Mill Valley. It was a great little nightclub in a strip mall.

[gawatchman]

But I have heard both of them, and liked them. I especially thought Vegetable Man was brilliant. I don't think I have heard any Syd Barrett songs that I did not like. I also really liked "Scarecrow", and "Flaming" on the Piper album. My opinion anyway.

[Itzlzha]

lol. My memory must be going, because Uncle Charlie's was next door in Corte Madera, not Mill Valley. It was a great little nightclub in a strip mall.

Lol. My favorite spot was a mafia run place called "The Channel" on the edge of Boston Harbor...BOY did I have good times there...both on and off stage! Saw some GREAT acts there as well!

Any Mass folk out there remeber "The Channel"?

[StoneColdGOP]

Again?

What the hell was that tour last year (or was it early this year?) that had both Sammy AND David trading off frontman roles?