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1 posted on 03/27/2005 7:07:38 PM PST by jcsmonogram
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I believe the order said no nutrition or hydration. Did not mention feeling tube. So yes, nothing by mouth.


2 posted on 03/27/2005 7:09:14 PM PST by Abby4116
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We sheeple just keep grazing, instead of demanding change. That must be it.


3 posted on 03/27/2005 7:10:05 PM PST by Tax Government (Withhold hydration from the judicial branch of government. Contribute to FR; that may help.)
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You would think, given that the Florida Constitution guarantees that no person will be deprived of the right to life based on physical disability, but you'd be wrong because the only law that matters now is the order of a court.


5 posted on 03/27/2005 7:11:22 PM PST by thoughtomator (Prepare yourself for industrialized euthanasia)
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Ask not for whom the bell tolls. It tolls for thee.

America is no longer the land of the free and the home of the brave. It's the home of the perverts, rapists and killers.


6 posted on 03/27/2005 7:11:30 PM PST by Senormechanico
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Husband Mikey wants her dead, and the paid off judge is willing to help. So nothing can pass her lips except air (she's lucky to have that).


7 posted on 03/27/2005 7:12:21 PM PST by etcetera (No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom, unless he be vigilant in its preservation.)
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They also denied her communion...

No Freedom of Religion for Terri


9 posted on 03/27/2005 7:12:51 PM PST by joesnuffy (The generation that survived the depression and won WW2 proved poverty does not cause crime)
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It seems that no one - not even Judge Greer or Michael Schiavo - can deny the oral administration of hydration.

It seems that they can. And it seems they did. It seems that these people are evil.

10 posted on 03/27/2005 7:13:10 PM PST by P-Marlowe
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Greer's ruling:
Order
This cause came before the Court for hearing on March 7, 2005 on Respondents’ Emergency Expedited Motion for Permission to Provide Theresa Schiavo with Food and Water by Natural Means after the assisted nutrition and hydration are discontinued. The Court heard the argument of Daniel Gibbs, for the Respondents and of George Felos, for the Petitioner.

Having also reviewed portions of declarations or affidavits of several doctors, which were submitted to the Court by Respondents, it has become clear that the motion is part and parcel of the Respondents’ FLa. R. Civ. P Rule 1.540(b)(5) motion on medical evaluations. The same declarations are being used for both motions and the motion appears to be an alternative pleading to the 1.540(b)(5) motion. Both are asking for an experimental procedure. The Court reasons that if the 1.540(b)(5) motion is granted, there is no need for this motion. If the 1.540(b)(5) motion is denied, the Court should not do indirectly what is has not done directly.

It is therefore
Ordered and adjudged that the Respondents’ Emergency Expedited Motion for Permission to Provide Theresa Schiavo with Food and Water by Natural Means is DENIED.
11 posted on 03/27/2005 7:13:15 PM PST by hisname
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The legal question I have is: Is bigamy legal in Florida?

Michael Schiavo has been living with another woman for 10 years (he was only married to Terri for 5). Doesn't that make this woman his common-law wife? If so, that would make him a bigamist.

Terri wouldn't want him to be his guardian would she?

12 posted on 03/27/2005 7:13:35 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all)
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It seems that no one - not even Judge Greer or Michael Schiavo - can deny the oral administration of hydration.

They can and they did. The judge issued the order to have her murdered in a tortuous way and nothing or anyone is going to stop them.

13 posted on 03/27/2005 7:13:42 PM PST by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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Don't be silly, she might swallow something.

If you CAN swallow you are not in a PVS, and the Greer Reaper would be proven wrong.

It's just tooooooo risky!!!


14 posted on 03/27/2005 7:15:04 PM PST by null and void (innocent, incapacitated, inconvenient, and insured - a lethal combination for Terri...)
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Their entire argument is circular. They say she is in a PVS because she requires a feeding tube, and then use guns to keep anyone from giving her liquid or food via mouth. If their first argument were correct, the guns would not be necessary; she would be unable to swallow, and so any atttempt to nourish her that way would fail. They know, however, that such attempts would succeed: hence the guns.


16 posted on 03/27/2005 7:16:19 PM PST by Fantasywriter
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She can't swallow. If you put water in her mouth, it will go into her lungs. A small amount would cause an infection; a larger amount would make her drown.


17 posted on 03/27/2005 7:17:37 PM PST by speekinout
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You pose a good question. I suppose the answer is that if she can't get up, go to the kitchen and prepare a meal, and then feed it to herself, she is a burden to society and must be eliminated. Not only that, look what a tremendous inconvenience she is to her husband and his new family, sort of like an unwanted pregnancy.


21 posted on 03/27/2005 7:19:54 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all things that need to be done need to be done by the government.)
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I have a legal question as well.

Why can't Jeb Bush remove Terry to the nearest state with a Republican governor, strong Republican majorities in both the State House and Senate and a favorable judiciary?

A law could be passed in that state tomorrow.

Jeb Bush would be faced with a contempt of court indictment, but Terry would be protected.

23 posted on 03/27/2005 7:20:18 PM PST by Praxeologue
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The judge's order is technically illegal. But he is has force on his side, and no one seems to be willing to give the order to fight force with force.


24 posted on 03/27/2005 7:20:18 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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At my facility, that would be considered a "care and comfort" measure, not hydration. Unless it could lead to strangling or aspiration. Even so, we have moistened swabs we can use for the mouth to increase comfort. I wonder if even that is being allowed.


35 posted on 03/27/2005 7:28:25 PM PST by dandi
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If you read judge Greer bio how can anyone let this bast#ad judge anything he is so corrupt he makes Bill Clinton look like the Pope.
43 posted on 03/27/2005 7:30:18 PM PST by solo gringo (Liberal democrats And Flor-duh judges are parasites)
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Good question. Falling on deaf ears. The Judicial Gods of America have decided Terry must die. Nothing can change that.


47 posted on 03/27/2005 7:32:06 PM PST by samtheman
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I went through this with my Dad. He had requested that he die at home. He had given me explicit orders in a health care directive that said there was to be no nourishment or hydration beyond what he could take orally. He also requested only pain medication that could be administered orally.

In his last week he could no longer eat, and the evening before he passed away he was no longer capable of swallowing. His lips became parched, and I did use ice to try and relieve any discomfort he might be experiencing. In hindsight, it was an act of mercy that probably comforted me more than him. The more difficult aspect was the pain medication. He was no longer capable of swallowing and though seemingly unconsciousness, he had an anguished look on his face I wanted so much to relieve, but had no means to do so.

I hope Terri is receiving pain medication by whatever means possible.
50 posted on 03/27/2005 7:34:25 PM PST by backtothestreets
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