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Has '24' Gone Bush-Bashing? (**Spoiler Vanity**)

Posted on 01/30/2006 9:06:33 PM PST by Lunatic Fringe

So it seems that the plotline for this season's '24' is that a dark, shadowy conspiracy of white American puppetmasters is exploiting the threat of terrorism in order to 'secure the flow of oil for the next generation,' manipulating a weak, dim-witted President to achieve their diabolical goals of world domination and economical power.


TOPICS: TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: 24; agitprop; antiameircanism; antiamericanism; betyouwatchnextweek; bushhassers; conspiracytheory; fox; getalife; propaganda; ratingsstunt; trashtv; unamerican; warforoil
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1 posted on 01/30/2006 9:06:34 PM PST by Lunatic Fringe
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To: Lunatic Fringe

I believe that the ultimate bad guy is a Russian oil man actually...but hey.


2 posted on 01/30/2006 9:08:24 PM PST by Der_Hirnfänger
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To: Lunatic Fringe

Nah. It's just a TV show.


3 posted on 01/30/2006 9:08:48 PM PST by Blzbba (Sub sole nihil novi est)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

All I know is that Jack's cell phone ringer sounds the same as mine. I kept having to check my phone everytime his rang.


4 posted on 01/30/2006 9:09:04 PM PST by neodad (Rule Number 1: Be Armed)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
dim-witted President

Logan(the President from 24) isn't meant to be dim-witted;rather he is indecisive.

5 posted on 01/30/2006 9:10:10 PM PST by ozoneliar ("The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants" -T.J.)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

I read somewhere that at season's end, Jack retires to farm sheep with a childhood friend in Wyoming.

That might have been something else, though.


6 posted on 01/30/2006 9:10:12 PM PST by RabidBartender
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To: Lunatic Fringe

The guy playing the president does not remind me of George Bush at all. He's kind of a bad Nixon parody so far.


7 posted on 01/30/2006 9:10:40 PM PST by isthisnickcool (Quoting Hillary Clinton: "You know, you know, you know, you know.....")
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To: neodad

We have a guy in our office whose cell phone ringtone is 'Lowrider'.

*rolleyes*


8 posted on 01/30/2006 9:10:43 PM PST by Lunatic Fringe (North Texas Solutions http://ntxsolutions.com)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

You must be new to "24".
Time will tell, there will be many twists and turns as the season progresses.


9 posted on 01/30/2006 9:11:12 PM PST by 1066AD
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To: Lunatic Fringe

Only if you think Bush is a "..weak, dim-witted President."

I don't believe he is. The Bush-Bashers want that to be the perception, but the "dim wit" keeps outwitting them. What does that make them? --hehe


10 posted on 01/30/2006 9:11:59 PM PST by gooleyman ( What about the baby's "RIGHT TO CHOOSE"?????? I bet the baby would chose LIFE.)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

I dont think there is enough info yet to determine what their ultimate goals are.

So far we've only been treated to what Walt thinks was the plan.


11 posted on 01/30/2006 9:12:09 PM PST by wallcrawlr (http://www.bionicear.com)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

I picked up on this, too. I just sent an email to my husband who is out-of-town that I was not happy at all that there was indication of a conspiracy to fake WMDs.


12 posted on 01/30/2006 9:12:31 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

"Has '24' Gone Bush-Bashing?"

Don't think so. Hugh Hewitt worked for
President Nixon, and he thinks that
Mr. Nixon is their character model.

Seemed to me was series when he said it.


13 posted on 01/30/2006 9:12:38 PM PST by righttackle44 (The most dangerous weapon in the world is a Marine with his rifle and the American people behind him)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

I think they are illustrating what can happen with a weak and indecisive president. Don't think it is meant as a Bush bash, but that's just my opinion.


14 posted on 01/30/2006 9:13:37 PM PST by conservativebabe
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To: gooleyman
I`ve been watching 24 this season and am quickly coming to the conclusion that the dim-witted one is me.
Question: Why do all the characters whisper? Drives me nuts.
15 posted on 01/30/2006 9:16:28 PM PST by bybybill (GOD help us if the Rats win)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
I've been raising the point that 24 has never had a storyline where the terrorists are Islamists acting alone.

But try getting the faithful to deal with that:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1556686/posts?q=1&&page=3931

16 posted on 01/30/2006 9:16:49 PM PST by dirtboy (My new years resolution is to quit using taglines...)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
Oh No. Not another television post.

B-B-B-B-Bam!!!!!



17 posted on 01/30/2006 9:20:25 PM PST by HOTTIEBOY (The more people I meet, the more I like my dog.)
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To: HOTTIEBOY
This is what happens when you turn the TV off - you start drinking Busch Light?

Turn that bitch back ON!

18 posted on 01/30/2006 9:21:35 PM PST by dirtboy (My new years resolution is to quit using taglines...)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

It's a TV show. It's also known for twists and turns.

Logan reminds me of John Kerry. Walt reminds me of your run of the mill evil bureaucrat which is a dime a dozen - in any party.


19 posted on 01/30/2006 9:22:37 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("What does a guy have to do to get fired around here?" - Darryl Rogers, former Lions Coach)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

The president to me seems to be modeled more after Kerry. Wimpy, big wuss.


20 posted on 01/30/2006 9:24:30 PM PST by Spyder
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To: dirtboy

LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


21 posted on 01/30/2006 9:24:55 PM PST by My Favorite Headache ("Scientology is dangerous stuff,it's like forming a religion based around Johnny Quest and Haji.")
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To: Lunatic Fringe
From DU:

Seen the light (321 posts) Tue Jan-31-06 12:13 AM Original message

Wow, did anybody see 24 tonight? Powerful message about * administration

Basically, one of the chief advisors to the President, a Scooter Libby/Karl Rove type, conspired to put WMDs in Central Asia in order to be able countries there in the future. It was amazing and I think it may make some of the conservatives that worship that show take that message to heart.

22 posted on 01/30/2006 9:25:33 PM PST by denydenydeny ("Osama... made the mistake of confusing media conventional wisdom with reality" (Mark Steyn))
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To: Lunatic Fringe

question everything (1000+ posts) Tue Jan-31-06 12:25 AM
Original message
Great story on '24' - warning, spoiler
Apologies if posted already. Cannot search effectively.


Anyway, last we've heard, Walt Cummings, the W.H. chief of staff was in cahoot with the terrorists who first killed two hostages - and were going to kill more - then grabbed several cylinders of toxic gas, destination unknown.

This evening Cummings was exposed and... this was a plan to let the terrorists take the cylinders to their hideaway place in Central Asia. Once there, Cummings' man would detonate them thus killing all the terrorists in their dens and.... assuring the supply of Central Oil to the U.S.

Seen the light (322 posts) Tue Jan-31-06 12:26 AM
Response to Original message
1. Yep, it rocked and I was impressed
It's Rush Limbaugh's favorite show too, he's going to be PISSED tomorrow.


23 posted on 01/30/2006 9:27:55 PM PST by denydenydeny ("Osama... made the mistake of confusing media conventional wisdom with reality" (Mark Steyn))
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To: dirtboy

Busch Light is your friend. We drink beer around here. Besides, it's cheap. Not Ice or Lager or anything that has the name Ale in it. No Dark Malt Aged Honeynut Roasted Lager Special Blend.

Just light beer. Domestic please.


24 posted on 01/30/2006 9:30:48 PM PST by HOTTIEBOY (The more people I meet, the more I like my dog.)
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To: HOTTIEBOY

No, THIS is what happens when YOU turn off the TV...


25 posted on 01/30/2006 9:32:00 PM PST by Spyder
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To: denydenydeny
I've tried to like 24, I really have. But I come away thinking it's the most overrated TV show in history. Circuitous plots, lots of unnecessary yelling (all Jack does is "NOOOOOOOOO!!!," and, "Chloe! I need this NOW!"), and something going wrong every hour, on the hour. I'm happy for those who enjoy it, but not my cup of tea. Furthermore, the more die-hard fans seem unable to brook any dissension from hero-worship of Bauer & Co.
26 posted on 01/30/2006 9:33:48 PM PST by Cyclopean Squid (Moderates do not make history)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
I have never watched the show, but the teaser for this week's episode said that the "President's right-hand man" was a traitor a la Karl Rove?

Of course, Karl Rove is a true American hero.

27 posted on 01/30/2006 9:40:30 PM PST by LdSentinal
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To: Spyder

GOOD ONE. I am collecting all the replies to my smartass TV posts. (I am trying to enlighten some folks) Yours will go right between "go to sleep" and "break dance naked".

Thank You for your response!!!


28 posted on 01/30/2006 9:44:13 PM PST by HOTTIEBOY (The more people I meet, the more I like my dog.)
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To: RabidBartender

'Brokeback Wyoming'. ??


29 posted on 01/30/2006 9:46:55 PM PST by Critical Bill (An awareness of the Muslim contradiction must gnaw in even the dullest fundamentalist brain.)
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To: bybybill

I've actually never seen it. I've started to just let the Bush Bashers have their say. To heck with them. Our guy won (twice) and they can't seem to get over it. A broken clock is right twice a day, but to Bush-Bashers, Bush has never been right on anything in all these years. Heck, I even agreed with Clintoon once or twice, and I was one of the biggest Clintoon-Bashers around.


Let 'em bash all they want. They lost, and will continue to lose....I hope.


30 posted on 01/30/2006 9:48:10 PM PST by gooleyman ( What about the baby's "RIGHT TO CHOOSE"?????? I bet the baby would chose LIFE.)
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To: dirtboy
Touche!

^5s!

31 posted on 01/30/2006 9:52:02 PM PST by SAJ
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To: SAJ
w00t! Tonight was an exciting episode. 24 is an adventure series that requires a suspension of belief, as much or more than say, LOST. If you can let go, it's a wild ride with p[lenty of plot twists and shifty charactors.

Just remember this..Jack Bauer once forgot where he put his keys. He then spent the next half-hour torturing himself until he gave up the location of the keys.
32 posted on 01/30/2006 10:23:07 PM PST by catbertz
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To: Lunatic Fringe

Does anyone else see the resemblance between the "weak President" and Democrat geek Bruce Babbitt?

Or am I'm a kook?

33 posted on 01/30/2006 10:28:01 PM PST by melt (Someday, they'll wish their Jihad... Jihadn't.)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

But the statement by the WH staffer turned traitor - was tinged with over-zealousness about being a "patriot" and doing whatever it takes to save the world's oil.

I'm sorry but it sounded waaaaaay to much like the leftist moonbats' statements about conservatives. If this happens again .. I will no longer watch 24.

I simply refuse to be manipulated by a TV program. So far they were doing pretty much what I would hope our terrorist hunters would be doing. But if this is the beginning of the propaganda .. sorry .. they can take their show and shove it!


34 posted on 01/30/2006 10:36:10 PM PST by CyberAnt ( I believe Congressman Curt Weldon re Able Danger)
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To: righttackle44

the president in this 24 season is not decisive, no spine, and I don't care for him too much. Kind of reminds of of Jimmy Carter.


35 posted on 01/30/2006 10:39:15 PM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

Caught that .....


36 posted on 01/30/2006 10:40:15 PM PST by zeaal (SPREAD TRUTH!)
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To: bybybill
Question: Why do all the characters whisper? Drives me nuts.

Me too!!!! I can't hear what they're saying and I have to turn the volume up. Then my husband throws a hissy fit cause he thinks it's too loud. Then we fight over the remote for ten minutes. This happens during every 24 show.

37 posted on 01/30/2006 10:43:17 PM PST by Maximus_Ridiculousness (Chloe O'Brian ROCKS!!!)
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To: catbertz
Uh, we're a bit at cross purposes here. 1) I'm a '24' addict, 2) Tonight's episode was right in line, and it was high time that b&st&rd Walt faced Bauer while Bauer was in a bad mood, 3) Preaching to the choir, m'friend; I've argued 'suspension of disbelief' about 24 for about 2 years, 4) Can't believe Bauer didn't even ASK about Mike, who was presumably still in custody, 5) What the devil were the writers 'thinking', putting in that bit about the traitor claiming he's a 'patriot' and that manipulation of weaponised 'nerve gas' is somehow a ploy to guarantee future oil supplies (suspension of disbelief is one thing; staggeringly illiterate geopolitical/economic notions are something else again)?, 6) Lose Audrey; adds nothing except bureaucratic attitude and moping., and 7) ...

WHERE THE H*LL was Chloe tonight? One lousy short scene at the workstation, sheesh!

38 posted on 01/30/2006 10:44:38 PM PST by SAJ
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To: Lunatic Fringe
manipulating a weak, dim-witted President to achieve their diabolical goals of world domination and economical power.

Please tell me you did not just compare Logan to President Bush.

39 posted on 01/30/2006 10:45:04 PM PST by HairOfTheDog (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/ 1,000 knives and counting!)
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To: television is just wrong
the president in this 24 season is not decisive, no spine, and I don't care for him too much.

Well aren't you understated... This president has been clearly and intentionally portrayed as a shallow hysterical moron since he took office last season.

40 posted on 01/30/2006 10:48:57 PM PST by HairOfTheDog (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/ 1,000 knives and counting!)
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To: Spyder; HOTTIEBOY
No, THIS is what happens when YOU turn off the TV...

I've already tried telling him that... I guess being on the computer is OK, but watching TV isn't. Go figure.

41 posted on 01/30/2006 10:55:38 PM PST by Maximus_Ridiculousness (Chloe O'Brian ROCKS!!!)
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To: SAJ
WHERE THE H*LL was Chloe tonight? One lousy short scene at the workstation, sheesh!

YAAHHHH!!!!! I was thinking the same thing!


42 posted on 01/30/2006 10:59:49 PM PST by Maximus_Ridiculousness (Chloe O'Brian ROCKS!!!)
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To: All

I don't see the problem: Cummings collabarated and 'got in bed with terrorists' and they took advantage of him. If this is news to you, watch Season 2, almost the same thing occured there too, except it was NSA chief 'Roger Stanton' instead of Chief of Staff 'Walt Cummings...


43 posted on 01/31/2006 12:31:28 AM PST by TheSpy
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To: Maximus_Ridiculousness
She buggs. Chloe pouts all the time and always complains.
44 posted on 01/31/2006 12:42:24 AM PST by Pro-Bush (We protect Korea's border better than our own!)
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To: Maximus_Ridiculousness

Maybe I should have stuck with the cautionary tale about that Korean (?) who died after nonstop computer use.


45 posted on 01/31/2006 12:46:45 AM PST by Spyder
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To: Pro-Bush

So Jack told the President he would go back into hiding after this crisis again. That ain't good!
Sutherland is signed through only next season I think.
The way I see it, Chinese find out about Bauer, and next season Bauer dies when forced to commit suicide in front of her and the Chinese in exchange for his daughter being allowed to live.

I think that will be it, next season.


46 posted on 01/31/2006 12:48:16 AM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy
So Jack told the President he would go back into hiding after this crisis again. That ain't good!

They can't get rid of Jack. That would be the end the show. Kinda like watching Scooby Doo, without Scooby!!
47 posted on 01/31/2006 12:52:34 AM PST by Pro-Bush (We protect Korea's border better than our own!)
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To: Pro-Bush
You got my point.
Next year is the last year Sutherland is signed for.
This year his daughter and the Chinese will find out he is alive.
At some point (next year), the Chinese find out Jack is alive, kidnap the daughter toward the end of season 6 and then the last scenes will be him having to shoot himself in the head in front of the Chinese in order to let his daughter in the show go free.

That will be the end of the show.
That seems to be where the show is going at this point. If Jack goes into hiding, next season his daughter is in jeopardy.
48 posted on 01/31/2006 12:55:46 AM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy
Sounds rational to me. If the Chinese find out Jack's alive, then all hell will break loose - and the angle with his daughter sounds plausible to me. You don't think they'll sign him on for a few more seasons?
49 posted on 01/31/2006 1:00:36 AM PST by Pro-Bush (We protect Korea's border better than our own!)
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To: A CA Guy

Why would Jack go back to Audrey, when he's got the beautiful Diane! And Chloe? She's too frumpy.

Diane? Oh yeah, tall, beautiful, smart, and a redhead! WOW!


50 posted on 01/31/2006 2:28:48 AM PST by Ro_Thunder ("Other than ending SLAVERY, FASCISM, NAZISM and COMMUNISM, war has never solved anything")
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