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Report: Bonds began using steroids, vast array of other drugs, in 1998
AP on Yahoo ^ | 3/7/06 | AP

Posted on 03/07/2006 11:28:47 AM PST by NormsRevenge

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To: Owl_Eagle

Yeah, this thing couldn't have happened to a "nicer" guy! Barry Bonds has always been an _ss. I can't wait to forget him!


21 posted on 03/07/2006 12:05:21 PM PST by southernerwithanattitude (New and improved redneck)
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To: munchtipq
Absolutely! Let 'em juice their hearts out! Does anyone complain that rock stars' performances are chemically enhanced? Why is it so different in the arena of sport? I honestly don't understand why people are offended by the use of steroids in this entertainment industry when in other forms of professional entertainment it's okay.

I have a personal friend who tried for years to make an NFL cheerleading squad. More for resume' building purposes that any childish fantasies about being a cheerleader. She tried and was cut 4 or 5 years in a row. She tried a sixth time, made the cut and "started" every game for 3 years. ("Started" meaning she made the performing squad for every game. The cheer squads have starters and reserves just like the team.) The difference? She got a boob job. She could always dance circles around her competitors, but it took a pair of 36 D's to make it.

22 posted on 03/07/2006 12:07:06 PM PST by IamConservative (Who does not trust a man of principle? A man who has none.)
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To: munchtipq
The analogy to rock stars being chemically enhanced is flawed in that in sport (be it baseball, football, hockey, etc) where there is physical competition and one can have an unfair competitive advantage through the use of these drugs. Now, if everyone was using thereby leveling the playing, then that's okay....;-)
23 posted on 03/07/2006 12:08:56 PM PST by Wyatt's Torch
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To: Wolfie

Why?

It's clear Bonds will cry this s a white racist plot to deny a black athlete his due recognition....

Semper Fi


24 posted on 03/07/2006 12:10:11 PM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Wyatt's Torch

Well, that's why I said let them juice. Let everyone juice if they want to.


25 posted on 03/07/2006 12:12:16 PM PST by munchtipq
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To: Spruce

That dows bring up an interesting question, though: since Ruth, and probably quite a few others, were using an illegal substance, should their numbers be tossed out?


26 posted on 03/07/2006 12:17:38 PM PST by Chi-townChief
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To: munchtipq
Baseball is about history as much as it is about sport. It is a game of math and statistics. Numbers, numbers, numbers!
One of baseball fans favorite pastimes is comparing the players of long ago to current players and it is unfair to compare Babe Ruth to Barry Bonds because of his use of steroids. {I'm not even going to mention the season was 40 games shorter}
27 posted on 03/07/2006 12:19:07 PM PST by southernerwithanattitude (New and improved redneck)
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To: Alberta's Child
MLB basically looked the other way as steroid use became widespread in the 1990s -- mainly because ridiculous offensive numbers were good for business.

Absolutely...and there is something unseemly about the race to distance themselves from the men whose backs they rode.

28 posted on 03/07/2006 12:19:53 PM PST by Dolphy
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To: munchtipq
Agree. Unanimous stupidity is far better than majority stupidity.....;-)

It's really a shame. I used to love ML Baseball. My wife and I started dating the year the Braves made their first run to the Series in 1991. We went to dozens of games. She gave up, mostly, after the 94 strike. I gave up when they averted the strike in 02 (I think) by sticking their head in the sand and postponing the hard choices until later. Couple AOL's ownership of the Braves and this drug debacle and Baseball is an abject disaster. And Bud Selig has been at the helm the whole time. Un-freaking-believable...

29 posted on 03/07/2006 12:20:59 PM PST by Wyatt's Torch
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To: IamConservative

Hmmmm............scribble scribble..............and her name & address would be........? For verification purposes only..........?


30 posted on 03/07/2006 12:21:13 PM PST by RightOnline
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To: IamConservative

"Since Baseball is entertainment and the show is put on by paid performers, why do we really care if they juice up? "

Because these a$$ clowns are sending a message to our kids that you have to cheat to compete.


31 posted on 03/07/2006 12:22:07 PM PST by sean327 (God created all men equal, then some become Marines!)
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To: Owl_Eagle
Heh heh heh.

Even by your usual acerbic standards, that was classic.

32 posted on 03/07/2006 12:22:10 PM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: munchtipq

You'd have to care about the sport to understand. It's in large part about tradition and history and where your favorite players stack up not just against today's players but against the great players of yesteryear. Hence it's a matter of cheating. I could care less about the long term health impact to Barry Bonds. A few more health problems and fewer kids might be inclined to follow in such heroic footsteps.


33 posted on 03/07/2006 12:22:48 PM PST by Bogeygolfer
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To: southernerwithanattitude

If this is really what most baseball fans want, then they should pretty much hate MLB right now. It seems like MLB is doing alright for itself, though.


34 posted on 03/07/2006 12:24:32 PM PST by munchtipq
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To: southernerwithanattitude

40 games shorter? How do you figure that? Regular seasons were 152-154 games a year for a long while untli they expanded to 162 in 1961. Now, the playoffs have gotten longer but at most they are 12 games longer (5 divisional and 7 LCS).


35 posted on 03/07/2006 12:26:28 PM PST by Wyatt's Torch
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To: Al Simmons
"They're just letting him do it because he's a white boy."

We ALL know THAT cannot be a TRUE statement, BECAUSE BLACKS CANNOT EVER BE PREJUDICE. Only WHITES can be. It is a rule the liberals have put in. SO, WE KNOW that Bonds is telling us the truth (wink-wink). Sure. Oh, by the way, I have this bridge in Brooklyn if anyone is interested.

36 posted on 03/07/2006 12:26:44 PM PST by RetiredArmy (America is doomed to be socialist. Way too many people with palms pointed up!)
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To: IamConservative

Oh man. perspective ? at FR.. ;-]

Sometimes it seems all we deal with is invective here.

What next, Ultimate fighters steroided out of the minds ?

Shouldn't women also be afforded the full range of pursuits and supplements to achieve success, regardless the risks to health?

I appreciate the provocative angle of your comments. Thanks..


37 posted on 03/07/2006 12:27:29 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: munchtipq

"And, assuming that players all agree to just go ahead and use steroids if they want to, where is the bad example?"

Where does it end? Kids in Jr High now think they have to juice up to compete. If everyone in the big leagues (NFL, MLB, NBA, NHL) is juiced, then those coming in will have to be juiced to make it and the kids who have played it staight lose out. It becomes a vicious cycle with no end and bad consequences.


38 posted on 03/07/2006 12:29:51 PM PST by sean327 (God created all men equal, then some become Marines!)
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To: Wyatt's Torch

The season was 154 games long when Ruth played. PLAYOFFS and WORLD SERIES numbers DO NOT COUNT on a players yearly totals or career numbers. Never have. NONE of Ruth's 714 were world series dingers, only regular season.


39 posted on 03/07/2006 12:30:33 PM PST by RetiredArmy (America is doomed to be socialist. Way too many people with palms pointed up!)
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To: munchtipq
Sure it is! You love your wife but there are things she does that drives you nuts. I have seen Barry Bonds play several times {I loved the way he tanked at Fulton County Stadium!}.
The first thing a baseball fan will tell you is what famous players he has seen play and where.
40 posted on 03/07/2006 12:31:29 PM PST by southernerwithanattitude (New and improved redneck)
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