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Newspaper: DNA Evidence May Link Duke Lacrosse Player to Rape
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,195078,00.html ^

Posted on 05/11/2006 9:44:16 AM PDT by celejrm313

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To: wideawake
And, BTW, I think these lacrosse idiots brought all this trouble on themselves.

I agree with that completely. Sometimes doing things that we shouldn't be doing have unintended consequences.

But I have also heard that one these guys doesn't have such a stellar past himself.

Anyway, some good observations from other posters and I appreciate that.

21 posted on 05/11/2006 10:08:09 AM PDT by yellowdoghunter (I sometimes only vote for Republicans because they are not Democrats....by Dr. Thomas Sowell)
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To: rhombus

Where's the scatch mark? and which ONE did she scratch? I thought they had rape hoodies on.


22 posted on 05/11/2006 10:09:04 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: dirtboy
Oh, I didn't know it was already a proven fact that she lied. I must have missed that story.

I am not saying she didn't, I just had not read that part of the story yet.....

23 posted on 05/11/2006 10:10:12 AM PDT by yellowdoghunter (I sometimes only vote for Republicans because they are not Democrats....by Dr. Thomas Sowell)
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To: yellowdoghunter
Oh, I didn't know it was already a proven fact that she lied. I must have missed that story. I am not saying she didn't, I just had not read that part of the story yet.....

I am saying the evidence we have seen so far is overwhelming that she is lying. Until I see something remotely resembling evidence that the two men charged were involved, I will continue to hold that opinion.

OJ never got convicted by a jury - by your standard, I guess we shouldn't be able to say bad things about him, either.

24 posted on 05/11/2006 10:13:46 AM PDT by dirtboy (An illegal immigrant says my tagline used to be part of Mexico)
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To: yellowdoghunter

i am just going out on a limb here and wondering if Yellowdog might be a troll. I certainly don't here her complaining about the injustice of possible false charges and media scrutiny brought upon the accused.


25 posted on 05/11/2006 10:14:50 AM PDT by celejrm313
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To: celejrm313
And then I am supposed to say that you are a newbie and I have been here way longer....:)

But I won't.

26 posted on 05/11/2006 10:16:41 AM PDT by yellowdoghunter (I sometimes only vote for Republicans because they are not Democrats....by Dr. Thomas Sowell)
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To: yellowdoghunter

Well, just waiting for you to rush out and stick up for, what appears to be, wrongfully accused players. Can't wait to see it miss.


27 posted on 05/11/2006 10:19:41 AM PDT by celejrm313
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To: yellowdoghunter

Then why pre-judge? You admit your behind on the reports but claim to know why others "hate", come on - that is weak at best ;)


28 posted on 05/11/2006 10:20:30 AM PDT by fml
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To: celejrm313
It depends on how nutty your co-worker is and whether or not you've really, really pi$$ed him off lately. If you have the right answers to those questions, then you can sleep well tonight. If not, well, let's just say the next few months could be exhilarating.
29 posted on 05/11/2006 10:21:35 AM PDT by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: yellowdoghunter

i agree yellow. Fact is no one knows if this gal was lying or not. How awful it would be to find out she was telling the truth all along and we on here were all bashing her calling her a whore and a liar.

I plan to keep mouth shut about this gal until there is a verdict for guilty or not guilty.


30 posted on 05/11/2006 10:21:44 AM PDT by Halls (One Proud Texas Momma!!)
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To: yellowdoghunter
The guys ordinarily would be hated because they are Dukies. I think, what you would consider "hate" directed at the girl is probably because she's a lying opportunistic skank. It probably doesn't help her case any that her prime witness has sought out PR assistance to get the most out of her 15 minutes of fame and that the D.A. has been trying to railroad these guys, using faulty investigation and intimidation tactics on their team mates and other witnesses despite factual data offered up by the defense team that proves beyond doubt that the accused are innocent of the charges brought against them.

Just a thought...

31 posted on 05/11/2006 10:23:23 AM PDT by Hatteras
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To: celejrm313
I am not going to stick up for young men who should not have been hiring strippers in the first place. They brought some of this on themselves.

However, we all make mistakes and I hope they can get on with their lives if they have been wrongfully charged and I hope they learn a valuable lessson. And yes, the girl should be charged if it is proved she lied.

32 posted on 05/11/2006 10:25:05 AM PDT by yellowdoghunter (I sometimes only vote for Republicans because they are not Democrats....by Dr. Thomas Sowell)
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To: yellowdoghunter

When you've lived through such a nightmare, you will understand. One's sense of smell is heightened and one can sense when there is a dead mouse in the wall. I pray they catch whoever is responsible for either her assault or her smelly story.


33 posted on 05/11/2006 10:25:49 AM PDT by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: Halls

OK lefties listen up. I have not called her any names at all if you see my posts. What I am simply saying is that yellow lefty was on here whining about people bashing the AV. I just don't like the double standard of coddling the poor AV when, in reality, the evidence and alibis point to the Accused being, in fact, innocent. Of course I wouldn't expect lefties to feel badly at all for the students who may or may not be wrongfully accused. As long as their names and photos are advertised everywhere.


34 posted on 05/11/2006 10:25:57 AM PDT by celejrm313
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To: Halls
Some of the words directed towards this girl have been vile (and no, I am not going to go and read the thousands of posts to find them, but they are they if anyone cares to look).

Like you said, it is best to wait for more facts to come out.

35 posted on 05/11/2006 10:29:46 AM PDT by yellowdoghunter (I sometimes only vote for Republicans because they are not Democrats....by Dr. Thomas Sowell)
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To: celejrm313
I never said you called her names. Those that have know who they are. Please don't take this the wrong way, but I never even seen any of your posts on the threads related to this.

There is no need to call names, especially after you just said you don't call people names.

And once again, the guys brought some of this on themselves.

36 posted on 05/11/2006 10:32:24 AM PDT by yellowdoghunter (I sometimes only vote for Republicans because they are not Democrats....by Dr. Thomas Sowell)
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To: Constitutions Grandchild
I pray they catch whoever is responsible for either her assault or her smelly story.

Ditto.

37 posted on 05/11/2006 10:32:56 AM PDT by yellowdoghunter (I sometimes only vote for Republicans because they are not Democrats....by Dr. Thomas Sowell)
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To: yellowdoghunter
I am not going to stick up for young men who should not have been hiring strippers in the first place. They brought some of this on themselves.

Why not?? Hiring strippers is legal.

You feel sorry for a stripper that may have been raped but none for the guys who pay her who may have been falsely accused of rape?

38 posted on 05/11/2006 10:33:47 AM PDT by fml
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To: yellowdoghunter
Why so much hatred for this woman on FR? I think I know but I find it kind of strange.

If your son was facing 25 years in prison based upon allegations from an intoxicated prostitute with a serious criminal record I don't believe you would call it "hatred"....anger maybe. This case is creating so much anger because of the racial issue. One of my favorite games to play is "reverse the races" on any given news story. This one is a classic. If a group of black basketball players were accused of raping a white hooker with similar credentials would their season have been cancelled? If one of the black basketball players produced exculpatory evidence such as time stamped photos showing he wasn't even at the party when the alleged raped occurred would he still be charged? Would the DA refuse to even look at such evidence. Would the black players be indicted even after the DNA came back negative? Would Jesse Jackson be promising to pay the white "student victim's" college tuition? I think you know the answer to each an every question. "Hate" indeed.

39 posted on 05/11/2006 10:35:00 AM PDT by crabapple joe
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To: fml

Where did I say I feel sorry for the stripper?


40 posted on 05/11/2006 10:36:29 AM PDT by yellowdoghunter (I sometimes only vote for Republicans because they are not Democrats....by Dr. Thomas Sowell)
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