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JonBenet Ramsey Murder Case SuspectFR Thread Roundup
Free Republic ^ | August 16-20, 2006 | FReepers

Posted on 08/20/2006 5:37:25 AM PDT by Rte66

For your bookmarking assistance, this is a reference list of links to the Aug 2006 or newer Free Republic threads on the topic of the JonBenet Ramsey murder case and the possible arrest of John Mark Karr as a suspect in her murder.


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To: mystery-ak

You may be right. But not if she died within minutes of the head injury. It's the same argument being used about the ligature, that there was no head swelling b/c she died after being choked. Same argument here. If the blow killed her, no swelling.

I agree that I don't think it was a bat now. That should have left plenty of external bleeding and clearly didn't...no laceration.


1,121 posted on 08/23/2006 1:48:17 PM PDT by ableLight
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To: ableLight
I think it's easy to get caught up in the wagon axle on this ligature thing. We don't even know for sure if that was the precipitating cause of death.

Yes, we do know that it was the cause of death. It's listed on the autopsy report as the cause. She had petechial hemorhages on her face, eyelids, eyes caused by it. Yes, her head was also bashed in, but craniel trauma doesn't cause petechial hemorhages, strangling does.

1,122 posted on 08/23/2006 1:49:44 PM PDT by Valpal1 (Big Media is like Barney Fife with a gun.)
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To: ableLight

LOL...this is never ending, isn't it...


1,123 posted on 08/23/2006 1:49:56 PM PDT by mystery-ak (My Son, My Soldier, My Hero..............)
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To: ableLight

I should have said, I agree IN that I don't think it was a bat, now.


1,124 posted on 08/23/2006 1:51:57 PM PDT by ableLight
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To: mystery-ak

Yep, just like the trial will probably be. That's what's amazing about this case - there's no end in sight!


1,125 posted on 08/23/2006 1:52:53 PM PDT by ableLight
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To: Valpal1

You may be right. We discussed that earlier but many, including people in that profession, interpreted the cause of death as being from BOTH strangulation and head trauma. They seem to think that the coroner's report was inconclusive about it. The relevant quote from the autopsy report was posted a ways back on this thread, but it states that both were causes of death.


1,126 posted on 08/23/2006 1:54:37 PM PDT by ableLight
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To: Valpal1

The cause of death as listed in the autopsy report was:

"Cause of death of this six year old female is asphyxia by strangulation associated with craniocerebral trauma".

Many pathologists have interpreted that as, "he didn't really know for sure which, or if both, actually caused death".


1,127 posted on 08/23/2006 1:58:54 PM PDT by ableLight
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To: hoosiermama
"It was an accident"...was quickly followed by "That's 2nd degree murder, not 1st".

If he hadn't said that, I'd put "accident" in the possible file.

Her death was an accident? So she was just supposed to be just o.99% strangled and not dead and be a vegetable....because he had caught off her oxygen long enough.

1,128 posted on 08/23/2006 2:19:17 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: mystery-ak

I heard it yesterday but don't know the truth of the matter. Think it started with a rumor. Something about using a scalpel from the previous autopsy. However, I believe it can be separated.


1,129 posted on 08/23/2006 2:23:27 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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Boy, am I tired. Lotsa mistakes in my last post but I hope you get the idea.


1,130 posted on 08/23/2006 2:24:52 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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Per CourtTV

The movie and book deal has been sealed per the Karr family.


1,131 posted on 08/23/2006 2:25:45 PM PDT by stlnative
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To: stlnative
This may infuriate John. They get the money and the publicity because of him??? I'm waiting for John's "Silent Rage" to come out in public.

"Silent Rage" sounds like a good book/movie title to me. Is it taken??

1,132 posted on 08/23/2006 2:31:57 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Sacajaweau

But ...but....bu They're only doing it for John....SO he can pay his attorney fees. (Gee, I thought everyone was going to work pro bono for the publicity!)


1,133 posted on 08/23/2006 2:45:29 PM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: twigs

just heard on both CNN and FNC -it looks like the fingernail DNA has been "excluded" - it was contaminated by unclean nail clippers used during autopsy to recover the sample.

the only DNA left is in the underwear.


1,134 posted on 08/23/2006 2:50:43 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: mystery-ak

Lee, Baden and Cyril Wecht - these 3 guys are solid, and Henry Lee was involved with the case.


1,135 posted on 08/23/2006 2:53:06 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: ableLight
Please define "many pathologists". Most of what is out there on the net is sensationalized speculation in order to get bookings or to flog the parents did it to cover up an accident theory.

If the blow killed her, she would have stopped breathing and strangling her after death would not have caused petachial hemorrhaging.

The correct interpretation of that sentence is that she was strangled whilst being struck on the head. The blow may have been sufficient to kill her, but she was strangled to death first.
1,136 posted on 08/23/2006 2:53:34 PM PDT by Valpal1 (Big Media is like Barney Fife with a gun.)
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To: oceanview

bookmark


1,137 posted on 08/23/2006 2:53:42 PM PDT by varina davis
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To: oceanview

just heard on both CNN and FNC -it looks like the fingernail DNA has been "excluded" - it was contaminated by unclean nail clippers used during autopsy to recover the sample.




Are they just now figuring that out after 10 years.....what about the 2 drops of blood?.....


1,138 posted on 08/23/2006 2:54:06 PM PDT by mystery-ak (My Son, My Soldier, My Hero..............)
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To: mystery-ak

the nail clippers were contaminated - that's the story at least.


1,139 posted on 08/23/2006 2:54:48 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: oceanview

Nancy Grace will be discussing this on her show tonight....


1,140 posted on 08/23/2006 2:56:06 PM PDT by mystery-ak (My Son, My Soldier, My Hero..............)
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