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The Daily Targum ^ | 09/28/06 | Ronn Friedlander

Posted on 09/28/2006 7:33:11 PM PDT by KevinDavis

As a child, I often dreamed of traveling through space as an astronaut. As a college student, I still think space travel would be the most incredible experience I could imagine. What I have learned in the intervening years is that just because an idea sounds cool and exciting, doesn't mean it should be carried out. Reading Monday's column by Ed Fu, "Forsaking the Final Frontier," I was hard pressed to find any good, practical reason for keeping the space program alive.

I agree any space program has its inherent risks, and that those risks, while severe, should not necessarily be grounds for the program's elimination. I do, however, believe any program requiring an input of billions of dollars annually should be scrutinized and evaluated, weighing the costs and benefits. While it is exciting to watch astronauts fly to the Moon and observe rovers drive around Mars, how do these pursuits help us here on Earth? In reading Fu's article, I could only find one practical benefit and that is NASA's "vital role in international scientific research." NASA does foster international scientific cooperation; however there are many other forums for such interactions, such as CERN, whose scientists represent over 80 nationalities. Although NASA does execute scientific research, the vast majority of that research does not contribute to our Earthly needs. We cannot run this huge organization for the sole purpose of creating content for magazines like Popular Science and indulging the fancies of trekkie types.

Fu believes that "axing NASA won't ? do anything worthwhile in particular." This speculation seems to be unfounded. Although money from an eliminated space program may not go exactly where it should, it is hard to argue that billions of dollars could not help in areas where that money is sorely needed. The money could even go to other scientific pursuits that are more focused on pressing issues, such as disease and renewable energy.

Allowing people like Fu to vicariously "soar through space ?and explore distant galaxies" is not reason enough to dedicate a substantial percentage of our federal budget to NASA. The child in me would hate to see the reduction of the space program, but it is time for America to grow up. In an era of budget cuts to areas like education, which should be among our top priorities, we simply cannot afford it.


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Same old BS...... Take money away from NASA, and spend it elsewhere...
1 posted on 09/28/2006 7:33:11 PM PDT by KevinDavis
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2 posted on 09/28/2006 7:33:43 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Nancy you ignorant Slut!!!!!)
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Take money away from NASA, and spend it elsewhere...

Take money away from NASA and return it to the taxpayers.

L

3 posted on 09/28/2006 7:34:57 PM PDT by Lurker (islam is not a religion. It's the new face of Fascism in our time. We ignore it at our peril.)
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Not going to happen if we get rid of NASA...


4 posted on 09/28/2006 7:37:53 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Nancy you ignorant Slut!!!!!)
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If they had kept after the space program like they did in the 1960s, we'd have moon colonies, research bases on Mars, and a realistic chance of figuring a way to travel to other stars. As it is, we have the chocolate city welfare state of New Orleans.

We've been cheated.
5 posted on 09/28/2006 7:38:32 PM PDT by JamesP81 (The answer always lies with more freedom; not less)
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To: KevinDavis
I can dream.

For the life of me I can't find the words 'scientific research' anywhere in my copy of the Constitution.

L

6 posted on 09/28/2006 7:39:13 PM PDT by Lurker (islam is not a religion. It's the new face of Fascism in our time. We ignore it at our peril.)
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Take money away from NASA and return it to the taxpayers.

And the heck with the $3 to $1 ROI it has historically produced.

Hope you don't need a CAT Scan anytime soon. That evil device was the result of NASA.

7 posted on 09/28/2006 7:39:40 PM PDT by freedumb2003 ("Critical Thinking"="I don't understand it so it must be wrong.")
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I agree..... To me NASA and the military is well worth spending the money.. Not the Welfare and other social programs bs...


8 posted on 09/28/2006 7:40:34 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Nancy you ignorant Slut!!!!!)
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To: freedumb2003
Once again for the Constitutionally impaired:

I can't find the words 'scientific research' anyhwere in my copy of the Constitution.

For the record I can't find the acronym 'ROI' in it either.

L

9 posted on 09/28/2006 7:41:02 PM PDT by Lurker (islam is not a religion. It's the new face of Fascism in our time. We ignore it at our peril.)
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To: JamesP81

We've been cheated.

Worth reapeating.


10 posted on 09/28/2006 7:42:19 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (God has blessed Republicans with political enemies who are going senile.)
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Here it is:

To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries;
11 posted on 09/28/2006 7:42:31 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Nancy you ignorant Slut!!!!!)
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I graduated from "Rukkers" Class of '65! I had to try the link to make sure we weren't being treated to a Mugrat article. When ever the Targum was published, (Tagrum spelled backwards), you know that the staff had an attack of "tongue in cheek!".

Its sad but the Libs have taken over "Rukkers" and this Hooey goes along with their general disregard for anything intellectual!

12 posted on 09/28/2006 7:42:49 PM PDT by Young Werther
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To: KevinDavis
Mostly I let breathtaking stupidity slide by. After all arguing with an idiot just wears you out and doesn't change anything.
But, just once in a while when I have nothing better to do at the moment, I decide not to let one slide.
To start: The Chinese have an active space program with the intent of establishing a base on the moon. They also have attempted to blind our satellites. Who would like to cede the high ground to an active opponent and potential enemy? Survival seems like a good motive for an active space program.
Also, we want to go. Why should some elitist socialist anus tell us no? If you don't want to have the government control space then OK. Repeal the laws that prevent private ownership and space travel and get the hell out of the way. I bet someone would try to mine the moon and the rest of the solar system. The government can follow up and secure space. But I bet fortunes would be made on a new frontier.
All civilizations either grow or die. I hate those that would prefer weakness and decay.
Enough of that rant. Just felt like slapping down another journalistic graduate of socialistU.
13 posted on 09/28/2006 7:43:43 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local communist or socialist party chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing.)
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Read Article 1 section 8 of the Constitution...


14 posted on 09/28/2006 7:44:08 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Nancy you ignorant Slut!!!!!)
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To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries

Funny that. I can't find the words "fund" or "pay for from tax monies" in that snip at all.

Perhaps it's an anagram or emanated from some unseen penumbra.

L

15 posted on 09/28/2006 7:45:35 PM PDT by Lurker (islam is not a religion. It's the new face of Fascism in our time. We ignore it at our peril.)
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It also ask to raise an Army and Navy..It also says nothing about the Air Force by the way.. Which requires tax money.. Besides spending .5% of our national budget is nothing compared to useless programs.. If you think that cutting NASA is going east the budget crunch than you are living in a dream world..


16 posted on 09/28/2006 7:48:49 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Nancy you ignorant Slut!!!!!)
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how do these pursuits help us here on Earth?

Why the heck would we want to put things in orbit around the earth... what do you call it? A satellite?

17 posted on 09/28/2006 7:50:16 PM PDT by Lunatic Fringe (Fiscal Conservative, Social Moderate. Understand?)
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Read Article 1 section 8 of the Constitution..

Glad you brought it up. Here it is in its glorious entirety:

debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes;

To establish a uniform rule of naturalization, and uniform laws on the subject of bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin money, regulate the value thereof, and of foreign coin, and fix the standard of weights and measures;

To provide for the punishment of counterfeiting the securities and current coin of the United States;

To establish post offices and post roads;

To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries;

To constitute tribunals inferior to the Supreme Court;

To define and punish piracies and felonies committed on the high seas, and offenses against the law of nations;

To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water;

To raise and support armies, but no appropriation of money to that use shall be for a longer term than two years;

To provide and maintain a navy;

To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces;

To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

To exercise exclusive legislation in all cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten miles square) as may, by cession of particular states, and the acceptance of Congress, become the seat of the government of the United States, and to exercise like authority over all places purchased by the consent of the legislature of the state in which the same shall be, for the erection of forts, magazines, arsenals, dockyards, and other needful buildings;--And

To make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof.

Not one single word in there about funding scientific research from tax monies.

L

18 posted on 09/28/2006 7:50:50 PM PDT by Lurker (islam is not a religion. It's the new face of Fascism in our time. We ignore it at our peril.)
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I just give up arguing these ignorant morons...


19 posted on 09/28/2006 7:51:29 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Nancy you ignorant Slut!!!!!)
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To: Lurker
I can't find the words 'scientific research' anyhwere in my copy of the Constitution.

The Constitution allows the Legislature to pass laws and create agencies deemed necessary for the public good.

NASA is such an agency.

I have heard of Libertarians (God knows I am a Strict Constructionist, too) but the Government IS allowed to create entities as it deems fit.

20 posted on 09/28/2006 7:52:44 PM PDT by freedumb2003 ("Critical Thinking"="I don't understand it so it must be wrong.")
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