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Ex-cop shoots self [while cleaning gun]
The Jersey Journal (New Jersey) ^ | 3/27/07 | MICHAELANGELO CONTE

Posted on 03/28/2007 11:27:32 AM PDT by kiriath_jearim

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To: kiriath_jearim
Probably a suicide. Cops who found him most likely got out a cleaning kit to save his benefits for his family and save his and their dignity.
21 posted on 03/28/2007 11:56:00 AM PDT by txroadkill
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To: BRITinUSA

Took out mag but forgot the one up the spout ? Do Glocks fire with no mag ?


22 posted on 03/28/2007 11:56:07 AM PDT by 1066AD
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To: 1066AD

Yes, no mag disconnect on a Glock.


23 posted on 03/28/2007 11:57:09 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: 1066AD

And you do need to pull the trigger before removing the slide.


24 posted on 03/28/2007 11:57:36 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Tijeras_Slim

None the less, you don't point the Glock at your chest and pull the trigger. I could understand a leg wound from careless gun handling, but this sounds like a suicide cover-up.


25 posted on 03/28/2007 12:08:10 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Hmm, how many people remove a slide with the muzzle pointing at them ? I don't !!


26 posted on 03/28/2007 12:17:25 PM PDT by 1066AD
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To: ozzymandus; 1066AD

I agree, something here isn't right.


27 posted on 03/28/2007 12:46:19 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: BRITinUSA
He probably assumed that it was unloaded. Of course, a gun is never unloaded until you've opened it up and looked inside.
28 posted on 03/28/2007 12:50:51 PM PDT by Redcloak (The 2nd Amendment isn't about sporting goods.)
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To: ozzymandus
but this sounds like a suicide cover-up.

if this is a suicide cover up to collect benefits, guess who gets stuck with the tab.

29 posted on 03/28/2007 12:51:41 PM PDT by ozoneliar ("The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants" -T.J.)
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To: 1066AD; Tijeras_Slim
"Hmm, how many people remove a slide with the muzzle pointing at them ?"

A retired cop who carried a revolver his entire career and had recently been given a Glock?

30 posted on 03/28/2007 12:55:07 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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To: Joe 6-pack

Left or right handed, in stripping a Glock it's completely counterintuitive to do it with the muzzle pointed at your chest. He shoulda stuck to his Police Positive or Model 10.


31 posted on 03/28/2007 12:57:08 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Tijeras_Slim
"Left or right handed, in stripping a Glock it's completely counterintuitive to do it with the muzzle pointed at your chest."

From a matter of personal preference, having anything to do with a Glock is counterintuitive to me. I'm Colt/Browning guy, who has recently developed a thing for CZs...


32 posted on 03/28/2007 1:03:26 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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To: 1066AD
Hmm, how many people remove a slide with the muzzle pointing at them ?

Actually, I can picture how it might happen. When I remove the slide from my G19, I hold the gun in my right hand with my thumb on the backstrap and my fingers around the slide. That makes it easy to squeeze the slide back just enough so that I can work the release tabs with my left hand. From that position, I can picture him seeing the trigger in the charged position and swinging his thumb around into the trigger guard to pull it back while holding the slide in his left hand. (Or the other way around if he was a wronghander.) The barrel would go from pointing down and away to straight at his chest.

All it takes is a split second for a lapse in gun safety training to ruin your whole day.

33 posted on 03/28/2007 1:05:31 PM PDT by Redcloak (The 2nd Amendment isn't about sporting goods.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

"I'm Colt/Browning guy"

The Glock is based on the Browning short recoil mechanism.


34 posted on 03/28/2007 1:12:43 PM PDT by VRing (Happiness is a perfect sling bruise.)
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To: kiriath_jearim

What was his relationship with the Clintons???


35 posted on 03/28/2007 1:14:59 PM PDT by KingRonnie9
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To: kiriath_jearim
Suicide is possible, but most people don't shoot themselves in the chest - ouch.

Also, career wise it would seem this guy had a decent gig, not the usual LEO grind by a stretch.

Glocks can bite if mishandled, have to wonder if this guy had any training or if gunhandling skills were just assumed given his background?

As someone already pointed out, the Glock striker must be forward in order to remove the slide, only way to do that is to pull the trigger. If it's loaded, it will go off, mag in or out.

36 posted on 03/28/2007 1:16:56 PM PDT by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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Cleaning materials were on a table adjacent to where the shooting occurred, officials said.

...after they were place there by co-worker.

37 posted on 03/28/2007 1:17:08 PM PDT by Mr.Unique (Global Emergency!)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Revolver man myself, but have a fondness for Govt. models in .38 Super. The CZ's a nice piece.


38 posted on 03/28/2007 1:17:14 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Tijeras_Slim
"...have a fondness for Govt. models in .38 Super."

.38 Super is a cool round...I always thought of it as one of the most underrated chamberings, right alongside the .41 Magnum. Both are very versatile rounds and I'm amazed how many people I talk to haven't even heard of them.

39 posted on 03/28/2007 1:23:32 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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To: xsrdx

I don't like plastic guns.

I like the feel of cold steel in my hands.


These two semi-autos do me just fine for now.

SIG P239 Custom SAS 40. & SW 4006.

My bride wants a SIG P232 stainless as her Mother's Day present.

A sad ending for officer McGillis.

I Googled his name and found a news blurb about a son just home from Iraq duty.


40 posted on 03/28/2007 1:36:47 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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